Paul, it is time to grow up buddy, fairyland is overflowing. I know it is difficult for some to see anything, it is a factor of keeping your eyes tight shut.

It is hard to give up illusions of a lifetime, even when the evidence is kicking you in the head.

Any one who can't see the expanding no go areas in our cities is a bloody idiot. Sorry folks, but if the cap fits & all that.

My sons "crime" was to walk home from the train, in a street only a kilometer from a Muslim enclave. Standard procedure is to intimidate residents nearby. It lowers the real estate prices, making expanding the enclave cheaper.

For god sake open your eyes.

Hasbeen,
You are wasting your time trying to get foxy or Paul to change their views, They live in a fantasy world of ideology where practicality is non existent.

Rather than impose harsh measures to deter the illegals from coming here, Foxy is again advocating that we fly them here from Indonesia. Paul, being a greenie, wants an open door policy for any who wish to come. I do wonder how some people survive after weaning.

They have no practical sense at all. I wonder if they ever had to fend for themselves. I know a lot of young are idealistic but most grow out of it and become more pragmatic as they age, but not all.

Still it is worth correcting them as others do read OLO and am sure want to get opinions based on practical experience.

On another thread Foxy said I had found a kindred spirit in OTB. The truth is I posted to correct a wrong impression his opinion was portraying. I do not neccessarally agree with all that some others say.

Dear Is Mise,

It is difficult to reason with extremists of
any persuasion.

....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0MHRSFz6FM

Where we have been, and it is all down to Rudd who is now receiving $180,000 PA fully indexed against average weekly earnings AND he gets that first class air travel, limos and an office with staff in the CBD.

Yes, ONTHEBEACH, not a bad reward for not even three COMBINED years of utter incompetence.

....Can any of the Abbott insiders on this forum tell us what exactly the taxpayer is getting from this mob for $1.22 billion.

Paul, it's a pleasure, the tax payer is getting just what the majority voted fir in 2007, that being the spoils of the incompetent mob they (PROUDLY NOT ME) voted for.

All I can say to ANYONE who voted for that fool is, take a bow!

Banjo, "On another thread Foxy said I had found a kindred spirit in OTB. The truth is I posted to correct a wrong impression his opinion was portraying"

Maybe that is unintentionally portraying through brevity :). Nonetheless, comment that straightens out possible misunderstanding through omission is always welcome.

rehctub,

I am not the one to ask to defend the expenditure of any government. I am the one who is forever demanding that government agencies ensure that value for (taxpayers') money is always obtained.

I am still challenging the idiotic political correctness that dictates that the military are 'guarded' by civilian security staff (with 'wheel' guns*!), who in turn call the police who then call the real police to deal with a terrorist threat on a military base.

*revolvers

However I do know that our politicians have remuneration, conditions and retirement benefits that are second to none AND they have managed to reclassify a heap of roles/titles that can earn, make that pay, handsome returns to practically every one of them in Parliament. So they must all agree on that anyhow.