Paul1405,

Heh, heh, it is amusing that you now claim 'prior' knowledge of the Fabians and their influence within Labor.

You are still in denial though, which must be quite an effort given the video evidence of Julia Gillard's forced admission and her quick retreat from further questions. Here again,

@0:45
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhvuR05ZNUY

Foxy,

Now you rely on a 'fringe comedian'. LOL

Easy to see why when he ends with, "Actually, I voted Greens. Labor were my second-last preference, just above the Liberals".

The Greens,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtXBgiubnK8

Foxy thanks for the link made for a good read. Ha ha

Beach; A few obs from your link.
Firstly, have you ever noticed the striking resemblance between Julia Gillard and Karl Marx, they could be identical twins, uncanny that! Sorry, it might have been Harpo I was thinking of, anyway it doesn't matter, they were all communists.
The women who asked the first question on your youtube, was that your very own Miss Marple, I did like the way she said all the smoke went up the chimney, nothing to worry about there, anyway, if she wasn't your Miss Marple, then she must be a communist.

As for the last fella on your clip I did ask this question of you previously, which you never answered. Was that Andrew Middleton asking the Fabian question, the same Andrew Middleton who ran for a lunatic fringe party in the federal election of 2010? Got about 500 votes. Wow! maybe he is the son of your Miss Marple.
If you don't answer, I must assume, I am correct and another wacko to add to the list.
Did get a laugh out of your Greens clip, don't usually give you a big tick on the score of humor, but it was right up there with your Miss Marple (Amy McGrath) interview, when it comes to laughs.

That's enough on the Fab people, we already had a long discussion on them, besides your Miss Marple now reports that she has been using the weegie board and has contacted the "Space Aliens" and arranged for all the Fabs to be transported to the planet Kripto, end of problem.
Miss Marple has moved on, and is now flogging her latest and greatest book;
'I Was Once Psychotic, Now I'm Just Mad'.

Dear Paul,

You gotta laugh. Fabians here, Progressives, there,
Socialists, Capitalists - everywhere. And then we
have the example of democratic socialism,
with its blend of capitalist and socialist elements,
which has led some observers to postulate
convergence theory; the hypothesis that the similar
problems by capitalist and socialist societies may
influence their evolution toward a common ultimate
form. Economic convergence does appear to be
taking place - but will political convergence also
follow?
There's no denying - the world is an interesting place.
And who can predict the future with any certainty.

Over 2,000 years ago the philosopher Aristotle observed
that we are political animals. We are indeed, and
necessarily so, for politics is an inevitable consequence
of social living. In every society some valued resources
are scarce, and politics is essentially the process of
deciding "who gets what, when, and how."

The character of political institutions and behaviour
varies a great deal from one society or group to another,
but the political process itself is universal.

otb,

Xavier Toby is much more than a "fringe comedian,"
(Not that there would be anything wrong with being
just that). But to set the record straight for you:

Xavier Toby writes for several newspapers, magazines, websites,
and of course has performed comedy throughout Australia and
overseas. He's also worked as a bouncer, kitchenhand, editor,
waiter, engineer, admin assistant, copy-writer and labourer.

He also has degrees in Mechanical Engineering and English
from the University of Melbourne, a Master's in Creative
Media from RMIT, and he's a fully accredited meter reader.

I'd recommend you get hold of his book, "Mining My Own
Business," for a thorough take on this talented and intelligent
man.

no choice anymore?

Rubbish, there are greens, and other minor parties. They mostly hold the balance of power in the Senate, so have an important impact.

Most vote for Coalition/Labor because they are perceived to be parties most relevant to demands of the world.

Sure, debate more to centre-right in relative terms, but still important differences.