robert/..<<..Year PM starting Net Debt (Pct GDP) /
Receipts (Pct GDP)/

1971 McMahon -496(m)..

I SORT OF GOT YOU TO HERE
minus half a billion..[ie surplus]
but then we get

<</ -1.1 >>
<<..9,135>>

and <<..20.5..>>Receipts PERCEntage of gDP..(Pct GDP)/

*BEFORE..THEY EVEN BEGAN*
IE A START POINT..THAT RIGHTLY BELONGS TO..*THE ONES BEFORE*

then/1971 McMahon..LEFT../minus 3/4 rs of a billion
ie surplus/DEFICIT?

,,NOT...<<..1972 Whitlam -790(m) -1.6 9,735 19.6..>>..not* WIT LAMB ..but mcMAhon

AFTER ONE YEAR

WIT-LAME.. 1975 LEFT Fraser -341(m) -0.4 18,727 22.5

after 3 years
1983 FRAZER LEFT Hawke 16,015(m) 7.5 49,981 23.4
after 8 years
HAWKE..1991 Keating 31,014(m) 7.3 95,840 22.6
AFTER 5 YEARS
1996 KEATING GAVE Howard 96,281(m) 17.3 133,592 24.0
AFTER 11 YEARS..
IN 2007 HOWARD LEFT..Rudd -29,150(m) -3.8 294,917 25.1
after 3 years
2010 rudd left..Grillard 84,551(m) 6.0 302,024 21.6
after 3 years krudd left GRILL LARD/krudd
2013 left Abbott 144,887(m) 8.9 392,544 24

SD, you are talking about a period in time and history where ethics had a different meaning and value to the individual. Most labour party members had actually had jobs in factories or the docks/wharfs etc. They knew what it was like to actually work and to get voted into parliament you had to go and knock on doors and put in the footwork. How can you compare your grandfather to this trash that rule us now, he was a man that did everything his country expected of him at that time and earned his place in parliament.
This hotch potch of society that rule us now have the media to do their footwork, television to promote the "good guy" image, Abbott is a disgrace the way he turns up in the pickle factory and screws on a lid like a hands on guy, so false its sickly. Most have never done a days work in their lives and are a product of the university. We can go on forver on this topic.

Oh dear. I see our resident nasty has jumped in with his
usual tirade of "socialists" ruining the country for good,
simple, honest, conservative people like him.

I guess that's the price we have to pay for freedom of
speech.

Dear Paul,

Thanks for shining a humourous light on the comments made.

I'm still reading the other comments and RObert - I also
agree that Rache wrote a great summary earlier.
I'm really enjoying this thread.

Talking to a teacher this morning about high prices everywhere & he said "well, that's capitalism" for you. I replied "well, not quite because it is Socialism which feeds off Capitalism & that's what's driving the costs up. There can't be any Socialism without Capitalism putting up the money in the first place.
Let's try socialism in sport where everyone wins the same prize or let teachers get the same pay as a drop-out on the dole.

The staunch my team right or wrong rhetoric that flows as many of my fellow posters joust with each other over which team is best for Australia is silly....which team is on the “peoples” side and which is on the “big business” side. Which team has the better economic policy, which team has the better social policy....the whole truth is that neither party rule the destiny of Australia.......The European Banking Cartels run the global economy, they have for 300 years, while our social agenda is set by the UN.

Australian politicians rule nothing whether in government or not.
I read a piece in the Sunday paper about heartfelt demise of SPC and it squarely put the blame at the feet of free trade agreements and the dropping of tariffs. This is the first time I can recall that a major mass media publication has stated the bleeding obvious, I was shocked. Simple Simon could tell you that dropping tariffs destroys domestic production.

All the traitorous politicians on both sides sat back and took direction from the World Bank, the IMF, and the UN Developmental Organization in the full knowledge that production and self sustainability would disappear in a thirty year plan. It is all in the Lima Agreement and both sides of politics voted yes to adopting the protocols in the early 1970’s......and it has all come to pass.

Go ahead squabble.......but it does not make a difference...they are stealing our assets and poisoning our environment under the watch of both Partys.

OUG>>
SORT OF GOT YOU TO HERE
minus half a billion..[ie surplus]
but then we get

<</ -1.1 >>
<<..9,135>>

and <<..20.5..>>Receipts PERCEntage of gDP..(Pct GDP)/

*BEFORE..THEY EVEN BEGAN*
IE A START POINT..THAT RIGHTLY BELONGS TO..*THE ONES BEFORE*

then/1971 McMahon..LEFT../minus 3/4 rs of a billion
ie surplus/DEFICIT?

,,NOT...<<..1972 Whitlam -790(m) -1.6 9,735 19.6..>>..not* WIT LAMB ..but mcMAhon

AFTER ONE YEAR

WIT-LAME.. 1975 LEFT Fraser -341(m) -0.4 18,727 22.5

after 3 years
1983 FRAZER LEFT Hawke 16,015(m) 7.5 49,981 23.4
after 8 years
HAWKE..1991 Keating 31,014(m) 7.3 95,840 22.6
AFTER 5 YEARS
1996 KEATING GAVE Howard 96,281(m) 17.3 133,592 24.0
AFTER 11 YEARS..
IN 2007 HOWARD LEFT..Rudd -29,150(m) -3.8 294,917 25.1
after 3 years
2010 rudd left..Grillard 84,551(m) 6.0 302,024 21.6
after 3 years krudd left GRILL LARD/krudd
2013 left Abbott 144,887(m) 8.9 392,544 24<<

God luv ya OUG.....