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What do you see as the differences between the two major parties - the Libs and Labor?
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80% of the DNA of the Labor and Liberal Parties are identical. Most of the other 20% is more to do with emphasis than philosophy. The political spectrum has shifted to the right, with voters given little choice.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 16 February 2014 7:46:01 AM
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Paul as my mob occupied land once Liberal you are quite right.
It baffles me. True, that the very left considers Labors evolving to be a betrayal. See Labor followed the voters. And once they come to understand the swamp in the extreme right, they hold Liberals will get closer to most too. In the end folk who decry Labors move simply insult voters, by not considering them as worthy of being heard in the debate. As our middle class grows and the light on the hill is in the second/holiday home, dreams and nightmares of a long gone time seem childlike. Foxy too much to address here but yes in my view Labor is the party of social consensus Libs increasingly lost in a right of right land that in time will do great harm to us, and them. Posted by Belly, Sunday, 16 February 2014 8:29:07 AM
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In my opinion the LNP are far more practical and more cabinet decisions are made, rather than just leave it to the party leader as Labor tends to do. This makes for more considered decisions.
Labor is far more idealistic. For example they were desperate to introduce the NDIS without any consideration to the cost. I think the Gonski education was similar. They went headlong into the NBN without proper analisis, the disbanding of the Pacific solution is a further example of idealism before practicality. Labor has shown incompedence in managing any scheme they came up with. Nothing was thought through. I think the LNP has , at last, seen the folly of multiculturalism and will formally remove the policy. After 40 years MC has cost millions and has yielded nothing of any practical value. The public appeal of the leader appears to be far more important to Labor than it does to the LNP. Posted by Banjo, Sunday, 16 February 2014 10:26:47 AM
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The important differences to me are.
Labor run up debt, the Libs pay it off. Labor increase taxes, the Libs cut them. Labor loses jobs, Libs create conditions where they increase. Labor buy every dropkick with handouts, the Libs cut them back. Labor MP are trying to find lurks to make themselves wealthy at our expense, the Libs are already wealthy & don't need to rip us off. Labor want to give taxpayer money to union shops, & rip off everyone else, particularly miners to do it. Libs want to let nature take it's course, let viable companies succeed, & don't care about union shops Posted by Hasbeen, Sunday, 16 February 2014 10:30:39 AM
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Good Morning Everyone,
Thank You all for your responses thus far. It's great to read the various opinions and interesting that many of you seem to think that there's few differences between the two major parties while others see very distinct differences. Perhaps part of the problem lies in the reporting of politics by our mainstream media and part of the problem, especially for the Labor Party lies in their failure to remind voters of their successes. Labor's communication failures are possibly caused by their mismanagement of the party and their leadership failure. As the author tells us in the link I gave in my opening post - "A bad sales pitch spoiling a great product." And as far as the Liberal Party is concerned, the author points out that the Liberal Party, "they know deep down they would never win power if they told voters what the Liberal Party really wanted Australia to look like. So in this case, they offer a ... expertly misleading sales pitch, for an awful product." We're told that, "...Australians don't want the gap between the rich and poor to widen substantially... judging by their response to Work Choices ... wholly alarmed at the prospect of the Liberal Industrial Relations agenda. " "(Australians) do expect government services and assets to be publicly owned, and not part of the capitalist private sector, available only to those who can afford to pay." "People do care about equity and balance in our economy - they don't want all the wealth and the privilege that comes with this wealth to be distributed only to the upper-echelons of our communities." " ...the Labor Party has failed to remind voters that the government policies they rely on for the success of their communities exist because of the Labor Party. Policies - like Medicare, a strong public health system, a workplace relations platform which gives workers safe, fair, and stable employment, disability support, nation-building infrastructure, environmental protection and a strong, regulated and growing economy are all because of the successful work of Labor governments." More to come... Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 16 February 2014 11:12:13 AM
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