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SPC Decision: Abbott and Hockey called liars - more pain to come.

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I again issue the challenge tell us you Liberal/conservative voters of the wrongs on your side.
Getting zero answers for over 8 years to my challenge is in fact telling me much about you.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 8 February 2014 10:40:49 AM
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Hi ONTHEBEACH...

Sorry, it's clear that I'm a 'city slicker' with my comments of total condemnation for those who remove the fruit trees...? I guess any orchardist has to regularly rotate his orchard ? Plant new ones, remove older stock ? Sorry ONTHEBEACH of these matters I'm obviously quite ignorant. Nevertheless, your point is well made.
Posted by o sung wu, Saturday, 8 February 2014 12:48:04 PM
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As it seems Liberal/National/Conservative voters are unaware of any wrong in their team my link may be of use.
Had Shaw been part of my mob I would never stop launching in to the grub.
In those circumstances [he being Labor\ nor would the silent majority here.
Strange but true!
http://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/rogue-mp-geoff-shaw-gets-his-marching-orders/story-fnii5sms-1226821020633
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 8 February 2014 2:29:33 PM
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This age of entitlement meme is so out of date.
Who is he talking to?This is not the 1970s.

There is no free tertiary education, the dole is hard to get and so small its not worth the effort. The majority of the workforce is casualised on contracts, and certainly little security of tenure.

The public servant jobs were stripped a decade or two ago and replaced with egregiously expensive consultancies which are awarded by Byzantine methods.

Does anyone understand what he is talking about?

The only entitlements I am aware of are unionised construction workers on super large projects. But this is a small part of the labour force. The rest of the entitlements are in and around the corporate sphere. The supermarket cartel of Coles and Safeway springs to mind. But all sorts of tax deductions exist for those who least need them.

I believe the politicians themselves retain more entitlements then anyone would dare dream. But of course we need those to attract the quality of talent - choke. To ensure that virtuous candidates are elected - choke - who will not year after year sell out the publics best interests to foreign interests, media tycoons, cartels and generally rape the citizenry - choke.

Entitlements! Indeed.

Sadly, the rhetoric Coming from this government is more absurd than even that of Gillard, Rudd, or Howard. The Jesuit has assented into power - expect us all to be flagellated for our sins.
Posted by YEBIGA, Saturday, 8 February 2014 3:01:29 PM
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Perhaps we spare a thought for those SPC workers whose 'generous conditions allow for a 5 minute extension on their break when the temperature exceeded 36C. Well it is over 40C there now and I will guarantee one thing, the CEO of CCA and Tony Abbott will not be doing a week end shift, will not be on any factory floor, and will not be suffering through that kind of heat for $50,000 PA.

What a bully Abbott continues to be.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Saturday, 8 February 2014 3:30:46 PM
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o sung wu,

Yes, the problem is that the farmer has to maintain the trees which involves the fertilising, irrigation and spraying routine regardless of whetherthere is a market or not . In this case his produce is being refused. There is no market for him.

Without the care regime, the orchard degrades quickly, trees die and the farm will never return to economic production. It is presently 40C someone said. As well, his farm cannot be a reservoir of disease and pests for other farms.

The farmer can't afford to do any of that without income. He is between a rock and very hard place. Is is very upsetting to see all of his hard work and plans go down the tube. It is either clear and burn, or be up for more large bills (the bank wants its money) and have the government fruit inspectors breathing down his neck.

It takes years and a lot of investment to get an orchard up to production. Few can do it. The unions aren't going to volunteer to donate a little labor or the water to keep those trees alive.

You are one of the very few here who cares a hoot for the farmer and his family.
Posted by onthebeach, Saturday, 8 February 2014 4:51:37 PM
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