weLL SAID ..kitten

i agree yet again..with paul[heck i even agreed with much clubbers has written recently[gst thread]

anyhow/PAUL..YOU WROTE..,,..<<..for some on here a buck a week and a bowl of rice is seen as being "ON THE GRAVY TRAIN".>>

OF course your right..[again]
BUT..the big difference=..what type of rice
ie gmo/rice..makes 3 rd gen sterile

ie white rice causes..BERRY BERRY?[IE A SICKNESS]
plus diabetes..[i got the dis-ease..wrong?..so tried google
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=white+rice+causes&

but my THOUGHT FLOW..has moved on

how about poisE-end rice[like we gave the ab-origonal..poisend flour
and we pollute our city-zENS..with fluoride to make us docile..or the carconogenic rubbish in our airs..the hormoans in our waters etc

Joe Hockey has announced the entitlement era is over.
He said re SPC that the government would have to borrow the money for SPC.
Which raised a thought, why does not SPC go to the banks and borrow the money ?
Are they saying the banks will not lend to SPC ?
If so then the risk must be too high.
If the risk is too high why should the government give SPC any money at all ?

Paul, Thanks for the link.

The 2 significant and contentious points in the 95 page SPC agreement is the rates of pay and the maximum redundancy payout. As for pay rates there are 9 levels, the lowest termed an S1 @ $23.96/hr to an S9 @ $30.30/hr. The rates of pay reflect the type of industry and skill levels, I don't know, but I imagine there are not too many S9's about the place.
As for redundancy there are two types of employees, those employed prior to 1st July 2012 and those employed after that date. The old employees maximum payout is 104 weeks and new employees 52 weeks. Firstly, no one envisaged the business going belly up so soon after the agreement was made. To receive the 104 weeks one would have to be a 20 year plus vet to get near that figure and those new people i.e after 1st July 2012 at the moment get zero weeks entitlement and if they had stayed on for another 40 years they would never have received any more than 52 weeks pay.
Abbott, Hockey stop lying!

Paul,

You just open your mouth to talk rubbish. Since SPC has been in trouble for a while, there are very few employees on the new conditions.

While the wages are not hugely significantly higher than award, the "conditions" such as extra loadings on overtime, the ability to cash in sick leave, 4 weeks redundancy pay per year worked, etc, bring the total cost to nearly double the headline salary. The company contributes to the union run unemployment insurance, of which most goes into the union's pocket, and union officials get 2wks paid union training.

Typical conditions are 1 week redundancy per year worked limited to 13 weeks. Sick leave of >1 day requires a sick note, and Sick leave is not cashed out.

However, the main reason that SPC is losing money is that their market is disappearing. The new equipment to improve efficiency is not going to reduce the competition, nor the fact that consumers are moving to fresh fruit and veg.

Would it be a good investment to bail out the makers of horse drawn buggies?

Paul I put a lot of trust in the average Australian.
And think while they are in control [Liberals] the Shadow Ministers are far from average.
All my ALP voting life I have known this truth.
Blue collar workers and common every day Labourers are just as likely to vote Liberal as Labor.
And we should be grateful, constant insulting interventions in to their wages and work conditions, by their Liberal Governments, sends them back to Labor, if only for one term.
Cutting wages to get the economy moving just will not work and insults the already battling workers, it is price fixing without high end profit control.
Notice and tell me why if you can, these folk rarely if ever call for cuts to heads of firms earning many times more money in a year than some workers earn in a lifetime.
Be at ease, one term Tony is working for us.
Good win in Griffith tomorrow