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Organised Labor, Organised crime.

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I forgot to add that instead of spening tens of
millions on Royal Commissions to investigate
what could turn out to be money wasted (as demonstrated
by John Howard's earlier Royal Commission) - the money
could be put to better use by bailing out fruit Canneries
in the Goulburn Valley and winning support from the unions
and the voters. It is after all a no-brainer.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 1 February 2014 4:53:57 PM
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Foxy,

So the stories about the union corruption being broken by Fairfax and the ABC who are both traditionally labor supporters is liberal plot?

So Foxy, are you willing to declare that the union corruption is false information planted by the ABC and Fairfax?

If you accept that there is some merit to the reports, the question is whether you accept whether this corruption is acceptable because it is union based, or whether the rule of law applies to everyone.

The Howard governments last royal commission a decade ago lead to the introduction of the ABCC which labor at the time supported. It was only Bill Shorten (union stooge) which removed it.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 1 February 2014 5:16:58 PM
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at least the 'progressives ' have stopped defending Thompson but only because he is no longer in Government. They still demand people to turn a blind eye to theft, corruption, organised crime unless of course its the Catholic church. Pathetic!
Posted by runner, Saturday, 1 February 2014 5:42:08 PM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

As far as I'm aware in this country people are
innocent until proven guilty and your attempts
at stirring appears to be in keeping with your
political agenda.
In all fairness - we should wait and see
what the results will be from the Royal Commission
before commenting on anyone's guilt. Allegations
have been laid - now it's up to the Royal Commission
to investigate.

As far as your reference to the Howard Government's -
"tough cop on the beat" - The Australian Building
and Construction Commission (ABCC) goes - it did
not prove itself particularly effective at reforming
the supposedly corruption prone industry.
The ABCC was pretty successful in its prosecutions
record, but most of its actions were for minor breaches
of employment law, such as unlawful industrial action.
It did not uncover systematic illegality or entrenched
corruption.

Political commentators tell us, "There's no doubt
that Australian building sites could sometimes be
managed more efficiently - but there's little evidence
that unions are the primary cause of current
inefficiences. And there is no sign of any "wage explosion"
as Employment Minister Eric Abetz was warning this week
in a speech to the Sydney Institute."

On the contrary, according to the experts -
wages in the construction sector have
mirrored those in the broader economy in recent years.

Of course it's a bad look for the CFMEU, and indeed
trade unions more widely. And union malpractice is
all over the news.
These allegations couldn't have come
at a better time for Mr Abbott who promptly foreshadowed a
Royal Commission into union malfeasance. The inquiry could
drag many prominent unions through the court for years
tying up their energies and draining their coffers in legal
fees and that's not counting the expenses that it will cost
the government.

It will be interesting to see what the final
result will be and whether this Commission will be more
successful in uncovering systematic illegality or
entrenched corruption than the previous Commissions
under John Howard were. In any case I'm sure the government will
milk it for all its worth.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 1 February 2014 8:00:45 PM
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Shadow Minister - The RIA and Movie industry go to the FBI which in turn gets NZ security services to illegally spy on a NZ citizen then police helicopters and the SWAT armed police raid the persons house.

The movie industry just had FBI pull a person of of a movie theatre because he was wearing Google glass.

The RIA have just had British police used armed police to raid houses when arrested the interview was carried out by the RIA not the police.

Oil and arms industry and the middle east wars.

Rupert Murdoch getting criminals to bug phones and hack into peoples accounts.

There are a few for you even though I think you are just playing silly buggers and you know I am right.
Posted by Philip S, Saturday, 1 February 2014 8:27:48 PM
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Last yr on 4 Corners 3 RBA officials were involved in a corruption scandal involving bribes and the sale of our note technology. The Whistle blower loses his job and the two bank officials suffer no investigation but just move onto better paying jobs.

We see very little follow up on corporate or political corruption. The Unions just reflect at large what is happening in society. No mention of the biggest corruption in our history involving bankers and pollies, LIBOR, sub prime mortgage crisis, the US Federal Reserve using the GFC to rob the people via bail outs, quantitive easing etc

The attack on the Unions as usual is a distraction from the big corruption killing our economies.
Posted by Arjay, Saturday, 1 February 2014 11:29:32 PM
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