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Organised Labor, Organised crime.

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SM here we go again another PORKY by you

You said "A survey of over 600 Australian journalists...shows that over 40 per cent of ABC journalists support the Greens, over 30 per cent support Labor, and just 15 per cent support the Coalition." you claim this from a survey conducted between May 2012 and March 2013

In fact Professors Sunshine aka Folker Hanusch

Folker Hanusch, senior lecturer in journalism at University of the Sunshine Coast, Queensland, recently headed a study which surveyed 605 journalists around Australia between May 2012 and March 2013. It found that more than half (51.0 per cent) describe themselves as holding left-of-centre political views, compared with only 12.9 per cent who consider themselves right-of-centre.

Nothing at ALL about voting intentions, just the vague reference to how people describe themselves.
Proof please that a survey conducted between May 2012 and March 2013 of 605 journalists, how many were from the ABC? Showed the ABC journalists of unknown number hold voting intentions to be 40% Green 30% Labor and 15% Coalition. What was the voting intentions of the remainder? One could hold a so called left-of-centre political view and vote for the Christian Democrats or the Socialist Alliance or even The Liberal Party.
One thing is for sure and certain, and you don't need a survey to know 100% of Murdoch's hacks vote for the lunatic right in the form of The Liberal Party!
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 9 February 2014 12:21:42 AM
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Paul,

I really hope that you are just pretending to be stupid to throw me. Please just actually read the article before any shred of respect I have for you vanishes.

The first two paragraphs of the article:

"A survey of over 600 Australian journalists, conducted by a senior academic from the University of the Sunshine Coast, Queensland, has cast a revealing light on the political beliefs of Australian journalists.

It shows that over 40 per cent of ABC journalists support the Greens, over 30 per cent support Labor, and just 15 per cent support the Coalition."

This is not my opinion.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 9 February 2014 5:20:46 AM
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SM, lets get to the nitty gritty on you supposed survey. The number of ABC journalists who gave "voting intention" 34, and of that 34 how many report on political matters, how many on gardening etc etc, not stated. the response from the ABC "(they) dismissed it, saying that the number of journalists participating in the survey was too small to draw any conclusions."

"ABC radio presenter Mark Colvin told the Australian that the result was “absolutely meaningless”. He said, “Only a tiny proportion of ABC journalists were prepared to reveal their voting intentions.... You don’t know anything about the much larger percentage of ABC journalists who were not prepared to reveal their intentions.… It’s absolutely ridiculous to draw conclusions from this survey on that subject.” (The Australian, May 21, 2013)."

Much of the article contains the biased opinion of it author Peter Westmore for example.

"While political beliefs do not automatically result in biased reporting, the left-wing dominance suggests that the culture of the ABC is overwhelmingly to the left, so that many journalists are unaware that their views are far to the left of the mainstream, or believe that they are a vanguard who must “educate” the public towards their perceptions of reality.

It also highlights the success of the left’s long march through the institutions, a process formulated by the Italian Marxist, Antonio Gramsci,"

Now we are down to the magic number of "34" can you should anywhere that even one of the 34 is a political journalist for the ABC? Could I not equally say about the 34 in question these journalists may write for the ABC's Gardening Australia.
Do you have another survey that shows 100% of government employed plumbers, who gave their voting intentions, vote One Nation! Would be just as useful!
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 9 February 2014 6:43:05 AM
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Paul,

I will congratulate you on actually reading the article. Pity it took so long.

It is a pity that you don't have the back bone to apologise for some of your more spectacular stuff ups such as:

1) "where did you get that "fact" from 'The Daily Telegraph'? 2) "MORE THAN 20 YEARS AGO" and 3)"Nothing at ALL about voting intentions"

Now gives us with no further research "Could I not equally say about the 34 in question these journalists may write for the ABC's Gardening Australia." Yes you could say that, along with claiming the moon is made of cheese. You also forgot that the number of journalists that declared their political sentiments was much higher.

For a more detailed version of the article:

http://theconversation.com/whose-views-skew-the-news-media-chiefs-ready-to-vote-out-labor-while-reporters-lean-left-13995

The co ordinator of the study:

Folker Hanusch
Senior Lecturer in Journalism at University of the Sunshine Coast
"Folker Hanusch does not work for, consult to, own shares in or receive funding from any company or organisation that would benefit from this article, and has no relevant affiliations."

Also made this comment:

"If we disregard the 42.8% of journalists who are undecided, refused to answer or would vote for a party or candidate other than the major three, this is a statistically significant result."

To translate for illiterate and innumerate Greens. - The probability that the ABC journalists are balanced politically is very very small.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 9 February 2014 12:41:00 PM
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