Tony Abbott has, as Labor did with the GFC , struck an early patch of job loss and events he did not see.

But few of us who did not vote for him should be surprised that he remains the man he always was and is.
Right now he would be quite mad to even think about a Double Dissolution election.

Based on these comment's Holden and indeed any manufacturing is unable to compete with the $2.50 an hour wage rate. So by implication then we become a service industry.

A series of big holes owned and mined by overseas venture capitalists, productive farmland owned by overseas interests and we Aussies can serve coffee and burgers. The remaining intelligent types go off shore and Australia as we know implodes.

Wide open to foreign takeovers and a complicit government ruled by a media baron who wants to appoint who he sees fit and proper to laughingly rule/govern another part of his empire!

Wonderful, this is a recipe for disaster. All the blue tie set put up your hands in shame. You have condemned your country to servitude and reliance on overseas interests dictating what and how we do anything.

Belly, "Right now he [Tony Abbott] would be quite mad to even think about a Double Dissolution election"

Heh, heh, so you believe the reverse as usual. I agree, a double dissolution would be a winner for Tony Abbott.

Labor has chosen electoral un-winnable policies. Bill Shorten is a boy sent to a man's job. Oops, make that a womyn's job - because his deputy Tanya Plibersek and the Grrls of Emily's List are honing the gelding shears to the usual blunt edge.

'Snicker-snack' go the gelding shears, look out Little Bill, you will soon be Shortened in the crown jewels department.

very curious,

Frankly, I'd reserve the brick bats for the over-paid CEOs and company boards, and for the intransigent unions.

If you go back to my earlier post of 7 December 2013 7:30:58 PM, my own and my extended family always bought Falcons, largely for their engine and drive train. It was Ford's intransigence in refusing to listen to customers, the workers' crass stupidity in not doing quality work and the dealers who were always too greedy, who convinced us over a long period to buy other makes instead.

Ford did a hell of a lot and deliberately, to lose sales and customers of generations.

Make no mistake about it, if Australian made is quality and what the customer wants, it will sell. For example, Toyota Landcruiser are expensive vehicles, especially with the restrictive taxes, but they have high build quality and durability, and they do the job they were designed to do.

On the other hand, Ford couldn't even get the doors right on a passenger car (Falcon), the same make re-introduced a large blind spot for the driver.l Looking down from above, a falcon has a metal roof smaller than a tiny four-banger sedan. It presented very large areas of glass (and the passengers) to the sun, in Australia! How stupid was that?

Ford lost customers because its senior management were not interested in what the customer wanted, ever. Ask the dealers. But those senior managers are paid millions and doubtless had the best conditions and bonuses going.

There are no winners in this situation.
General Motors is a company in profit and a small part of its profit
would enable GMH to continue.
They are looking for the Aus taxpayer to make that contribution but not
giving the Aus govt any interest in the company for its financial input.
The contribution will have to go on forever.
It just seems to be impossible, something has to change.

What we are seeing is the universal wind down that is happening everywhere.
The problem with QANTAS is the same for all airlines and I heard a
report that there only a couple of investment grade airlines;
United(?) and Lufthansa. All other airlines are junk investments.
Ultimately the whole airline industry is doomed.
Hard to believe I know, and I won't blame any of you for thinking I am
stupid and in need of care. There have been studies by physiologists
into the "Denial" attitude when the evidence is there.
That is an interesting discussion on its own,

There are a couple of books that I recommend that you all read as
they will help you understand what is going on.

Your World is About to Get a Whole Lot Smaller by Jeff Rubin and
The End of Growth by Richard Heinberg.

bazz..said something..re airlines being DOOMED
what rubbish..the planes are there..the staff is trained
airports are built..and the aircraft..have resale values

lower buy-in..means less debt servicing
means cheaper travel..which means fullplanes

think..lik a toll way
its built..who owns the debt..is irrelivant..
unless they spent too much..[and they have]

..in fact every real asset..is so over..indebted
we simply need capitalism..sort it out..once they exceed our ability to pay..[the debtors go away]..and the asset remain's..

and..now can pay..its way

as for gm..they got huge bebt..by buying machines
those machines WERE TAX DEDUCTED..WE OWN THEM[or rather the tax office does]

or else its REVEALED fraud
[trouble being..they borrowed..our cash..stol from us
stole from..our CoMPULSORY SUPER*..and banked.'savings'[bail-in]next year..thats why 65 billion has gone[was withdrawn]..from banks again..this year..

the ones inthe know know
and have taken..it from/the bank..but money printing
takeover mania to find a safe store of value..sees an ever bigger bubble

one day..the bubble bursts..and you get shares..in a bank
who mortgaged your other shares to the fed[owned by the same banks

but who..used the shares..to..do,..share trading..via the house of settlements..who borrowed..the cash..to buy [and mortgauge]..the same shares..so we cvan trade./.THE PROMISE..of a share..held who knows where

its all self companies..so thieves can drain them dry
put them safely into a tax free family trust

all trusts should be taxed double the highest 'personal tax'..just fot the fraud..it helped set up..any money moving into OR OUT-of..a tax free zone ditto..

bankers stole the tools of govt
govt should control..money creation
[the only LAWFUL.tender is coin..not credit/nor paper/nor shares[they are..promise notes..but coin=the value].