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The Forum > General Discussion > JOY..to..the world*[the Joy of the Gospel?)

JOY..to..the world*[the Joy of the Gospel?)

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What/is..not helpful..is/..a..diplomatic/openness..which/just
says..“yes”..[to everything]..in order/to avoid problems,..for/this would/be..a way..of deceiving others..

and..denying/them..the/good..which/we.have been given
jointly..to share generously..with ALL/others.

Evangelization and interreligious dialogue,..far from
being opposed,..mutually support..and nourish..one another.[197]
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/francesco/apost_exhortations/documents/papa-francesco_esortazione-ap_20131124_evangelii-gaudium_en.html#_ftn197

252...Our/relationship..with/the followers..of Islam
has.taken..on/great-importance,..since..they/are now significantly present..in many..traditionally Christian countries,.where/they can freely..worship..and become fully..a part of society.

*We must never..forget/that they..“profess/
to hold/the faith..of Abraham,..and together/with us..they adore..the one, merciful God,..who will judge/humanity on..their/our/last day”.[198]
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/francesco/apost_exhortations/documents/papa-francesco_esortazione-ap_20131124_evangelii-gaudium_en.html#_ftn198

The sacred/writings.of Islam..have retained..Christian teachings; Jesus and Mary..receive profound/veneration..and it/is admirable to see..how..our/brother/Muslims both.young and..old,..men and women,..make time/for daily prayer..and..faithfully/take part in religious-services.

Many of/them also..have a deep conviction /that
their life,..in its entirety,..is from..God..and for God...

They also..acknowledge the/need.to respond..to God..with
an ethical/commitment..and..with mercy towards..those/most in need.

253...In order.to sustain.dialogue..with Islam,..suitable training is essential..for all involved,..not only/so that.they..can be..solidly and..joyfully grounded...in their own identity,

but so/that..they can/also ..cknowledge the values of others,.. appreciate..the concerns underlying..their demand/ and shed light..on shared beliefs.

We Christians..should embrace..with affection.and respect Muslim immigrants..to our countries..in the same-way/that..we hope.and ask to be received..and respected..in countries..of Islamic/tradition.

I ask..and I humbly entreat..those countries to grant Christians freedom..to worship..and..to practice their faith,..in light of the freedom which..followers of Islam..enjoy in Western countries!

Faced with..disconcerting/episodes of violent fundamentalism,..our respect fo..true followers of Islam..must..lead us to.avoid hateful generalisations,..for authentic Islam..and the proper.reading of the Koran..are opposed..to every form..of violence.

254. Non-Christians,..by God’s gracious initiative,..when they are faithful..to their own consciences,..can live “justified by the grace of God”,[199]
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/francesco/apost_exhortations/documents/papa-francesco_esortazione-ap_20131124_evangelii-gaudium_en.html#_ftn199

and thus..be..“associated to..the
paschal mystery of Jesus Christ”.[200]
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/francesco/apost_exhortations/documents/papa-francesco_esortazione-ap_20131124_evangelii-gaudium_en.html#_ftn200

But due/to..the sacramental..dimension of/sanctifying grace,..God’s working..in them..tends/to produce signs..and rites,.sacred expressions..which in turn bring..*others to..a communitarian experience..of journeying towards God.[201]
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/francesco/apost_exhortations/documents/papa-francesco_esortazione-ap_20131124_evangelii-gaudium_en.html#_ftn201

While/these lack the meaning..and efficacy of/the sacraments instituted..by Christ,..they can be/channels which the Holy Spirit raises up..in order to liberate non-Christians..from atheistic immanentism..or from purely individual..religious experiences.
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040&page=0#176858

The same/Spirit everywhere..brings forth various/forms of practical wisdom..which help people.to bear suffering..and to live-in greater peace and harmony.
http://miraclevision.com/acim/urtext/acim-urtext-2003-upe-ready-edition.pdf
Posted by one under god, Friday, 29 November 2013 2:08:28 PM
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258...Starting from/certain social-issues..of great importance for the future of humanity,..I have tried..to make explicit../once again the inescapable/social*dimension..of the Gospel-message and

*to encourage..all Christians..*to demonstrate it
[by their words,works/attitudes and deeds.]

CHAPTER FIVE

SPIRIT-FILLED
EVANGELIZERS[go-god/spell-singers]

259. Spirit-filled evangelizers..means evangelizers
fearlessly open/to..[ALL]..the working..of the Holy Spirit.

At Pentecost,..that Spirit/made the apostles
go forth..away..from themselves..and turned them..into heralds
[tawlki9ng/singing/revealing..of God’s wondrous deeds,[each/capable of speaking..to each person..in his or her own language.

be it car-speak..or cricket/speaking
or..song/music/dance..plays..art..charity.grace..mercy/love


The Holy Spirit..also grants/the courage..to proclaim
the newness..of the Gospel..*with*boldness (with/passsion/parrhesía) in every*time..and place,..

even when..it meets/with opposition.

Let us call/upon him today,..firmly rooted in..gace-ful/mercy-full..prayer,..for without prayer..all our activity..risks being fruitless..and our message empty.

*Jesus wants evangelizers..who proclaim..*the/good*.news..not only with words.. but above all by..a life transfigured by God’s..presence.
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040#177082

260...In this final chapter,..I do not intend to offer..a synthesis of Christian spirituality,..or to explore great themes/ike prayer, Eucharistic adoration or the liturgical celebration of the faith.
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040#177068

For all these..we already have valuable texts..of the magisterium and celebrated writings..by great authors...I do not claim to replace or improve upon these treasures...I simply wish to offer some thoughts about..the spirit of the new evangelization.
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040#177047

261. Whenever..we say that something..is “spirited”, it usually refers to some interior..impulse which encourages, motivates, nourishes and gives meaning to our individual and communal activity.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040#176988

Spirit-filled evangelization is/not..the same as a set of tasks dutifully carried out..despite one’s own personal inclinations and wishes.
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040#176945

How I long..to find the right words..to stir up enthusiasm for a new chapter..of evangelization..full of fervour, joy, generosity, courage, boundless love and attraction!
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040#176944

Yet I realize..that no words of encouragem/ent will be enough unless the fire..of the Holy Spirit burns in our hearts. A spirit-filled evangelization is one guided by the Holy Spirit,..for he is the soul of the Church called to proclaim the Gospel.
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040#176947

Before offering some spiritual motivations and suggestions, I once more invoke the Holy Spirit. I implore him to come and renew the Church, to stir and impel her to go forth boldly to evangelize all peoples.

I. REASONS FOR A RENEWED MISSIONARY IMPULSE
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/francesco/apost_exhortations/documents/papa-francesco_esortazione-ap_20131124_evangelii-gaudium_en.html#REASONS_FOR_A_RENEWED_MISSIONARY_IMPULSE
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 30 November 2013 10:05:34 AM
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Appearances notwithstanding,..every person..is
immensely/holy..and deserves..our love...Consequently,.if I can help at least..one person..to have a better/life,..that already justifies the offering/of my life.

It is a wonderful/thing.to be/God’s faithful people.
We achieve fulfilment..when we break/down..walls
and our heart..is filled/with faces and names!

The mysterious/working
of/the..risen Christ..and his Spirit

275...In/the..second chapter,..we reflected/on..that lack
of deep/joyful/spirituality..which turns..into pessimism,.fatalism, judgmentalism/racism/feminism..and mistrust.

Some people..do/not commit..themselves.to mission..because/they think that nothing.will change..and that it is useless/to make the effort.
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It is a self-destructive/attitude,.for “man cannot
live without hope:..life would become meaningless and.unbearable”.
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/francesco/apost_exhortations/documents/papa-francesco_esortazione-ap_20131124_evangelii-gaudium_en.html#_ftn211

If we..think that/things are..not going to change,.we need
to recall that Jesus Christ has triumphed over sin and death and is now almighty. Jesus Christ truly lives...Put another way, “if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is in vain” (1 Cor 15:14).

We are invited to discover this, to experience it. Christ, risen and glorified, is the wellspring of our hope, and he will not deprive us of the help we need to carry out the mission which he has entrusted to us.

276. Christ’s resurrection is not an event of the past; it contains a vital power which has permeated this world. Where all seems to be dead, signs of the resurrection suddenly spring up. It is an irresistible force.

Often it seems that God does not exist: all around us we see persistent injustice, evil, indifference and cruelty. But it is also true that in the midst of darkness something new always springs to life and sooner or later produces fruit.

Each day in our world beauty is born anew, it rises transformed through the storms of history. Values always tend to reappear under new guises, and human beings have arisen time after time from situations that seemed doomed.

Such is the power of the resurrection,
and all who evangelize are instruments of that power
Posted by one under god, Sunday, 1 December 2013 6:40:32 PM
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the fall?

http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/fbe/fbe013.htm

CHAP. VIII.The "Bright Nature" of man is taken away.THEN Adam wept and said, "O God, when we dwelt in the garden, and our hearts were lifted up, we saw the angels that sang praises in heaven,

*but now we do not see as we were used to do;
nay, when we entered the cave,[earth]..all THY..creation became hidden from us."

2 Then God the Lord said unto Adam, "When thou wast under subjection to Me, thou hadst a bright nature within thee, and for that reason couldst thou see things afar off.

But after thy transgression thy bright nature was withdrawn from thee; and it was not left to thee to see things afar off, but only near at hand; after the ability of the flesh; for it is brutish."

3 When Adam and Eve had heard these words from God, they went their way; praising and worshipping Him with a sorrowful heart.4 And God ceased to commune with them

http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/fbe/fbe018.htm

cause..it..needs be put somewhere
but would be out of place..elsewhere
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040#177355

and no-one cares..anyhow
so..it passes..time.

cain/exile
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/fbe/fbe084.htm

then cain..moves on
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/fbe/fbe085.htm

the best lies..yet need externals..of truth..
let..the dead tend..the dead
Posted by one under god, Sunday, 1 December 2013 7:29:11 PM
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the Torah is his..who/study..the law..who studies Torah
acquires it..as his own; G-d's..wisdom becomes his wisdom.

We are creatures..of the actual.
We cannot live..on potential nourishment,..or be emotionally satisfied/by potential relationships;..on the whole,..we judge people by their actual conduct,..as opposed to their potential/to behave a certain way.

Reality,..to us,..is what is,
not what.might be.

his is largely due to the fact..that we are physical/emotive/
reactive/remembering..humane-spirit..beings...but briefly..sewn/into/flesh.

It is..a most telling..idiosyncrasy/of..our language..that immaterial IMPLIES..insignificant:..if we cannot touch*it..or see it,..it's not real/to us.

http://www.chabad.org/holidays/chanukah/article_cdo/aid/2686/jewish/Accumulating-Lights.htm

G-d has given us..His Torah,..for He has delegated
un-to mortal man..the authority to interpret it.and apply it.

Torah is..thus a partnership..of the huma/ and the divine,./where a kernel of divine/wisdom..[ex-tension/e-mission/of god..germinates in the human mind,..gaining depth,..breadth..relevance..companionship.. and definition,..and is actualized..in the physicality/of human life.

In this partnership,..our human finiteness and subjectivity become instruments of the divine truth,..joining with it to create the ultimate expression of divine immanence in our world.

So when the sages of Shammai/and Hillel debate..the question of which is more significant..from the..perspective.of Torah law,..the actual or the potential,..potential is/the purest..and most perfect form of every reality.

the essence...of the thing,..as it transcends..the limitations and imperfections..imposed upon it..when it is translated into physical actuality.

For G-d,..then,..the potential is a higher form/of being than the actual...This is why we say that,..for G-d, the creation of the world did not constitute..an achievement.or even a change in His reality.

The potential..for creation/existed..in Him all along,
and nothing..was added..by its translation/into actuality.

It is..only we,..the created,
who gained anything..from the actual/creation of the..world.

Indeed,..we often judge/a thing's potential..by the..our/perception..of/the-actual:[wee experienced]/thus affirm..as true..if this much/has been actualized,..this proves/that..there is potential..worthy of regard.

Envision,..however,..a being..'who..is neither physical..nor finite;

a being/not limited..by space,
not/limited..by/time..or any other..creed/ritual/prayer..framework.

In such/a being,..potential..*does not..
lack actualization,..for everything..is/as good..as done.

we/are..allowed..the revealing/choice.

*Accumulating*Lights

what..style..do you follow[accumulate/decrease*]

=..[Courtesy..of MeaningfulLife.com]

The/House/of Shammai..says:
On*the first day,..one lights eight lights;
from here on,..one progressively decreases.

The/House/of Hillel..says:
On*the first day,..one lights..a single light;
from here on,..one progressively increases.

Talmud,/Shabbat..21b..
can/one../serve..two/master's?
Posted by one under god, Monday, 2 December 2013 3:56:44 PM
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Dear Johan (OUG),

Give it a rest.
You're overdoing it.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 2 December 2013 4:00:11 PM
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