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JOY..to..the world*[the Joy of the Gospel?)

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Dear Mikk,

Don't you know that you can only be responsible for your
own actions and not those of other people?
And each of us can make a difference with a loving heart.
There's enough hatred in the world.
You words don't speak kindly of you. Blaming others is
not a solution. Look to yourself and what's in your own
heart and take responsibility for it. What others may or
may not do is not anything you have control over.
Only yourself. And how you behave is how you will be
judged by others. So far your look is not good.
But you can always improve.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 28 November 2013 5:47:21 PM
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cont'd ...

Dear Mikk,

As for wanting to vomit?

Please go ahead. It just may help you
feel better and it may also get rid of
the bile currently spouting from your lips and being
directed at people whose religious beliefs (or lack of)
you actually don't know anything about
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 28 November 2013 6:12:49 PM
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mikk..your..sickness..is revealing[and apparent]..but..
sickness can..be healed..will..be healed..once we let the pain go

im sick..of this world[satans realm]..here..in..these realms
SUPREME..good..can mix freely..with supremely vile..[believe..it or not..you werre told this..before even coming..here]

lest we forget..we EACH..are here ONLY because..we REJECTED...heaven..[gods eternity]..

the horrid things that repulse you..ARE
SPECIFICALLY..there..to inspire the revulsion..in..you
[so..next time..your offered..heaven..or hell..you can stay..where revulsion..cannot dwell]

see revulsion..leads you to reject hell
yet..your revulsion..is also..that which..keeps you from..heaven

heaven..is about..the living of love...in joy..[en-joy]

EVERY-one..of us..get injured..by perversions..[one/perversion/or the other]..but these..only occurred,,because we COULDNT..forgive others..[and go into heaven]..nor LOVED the evil/enough..[to go..to hell.]

so it was back...down..to earth..we fell
just like satan..before us fell..[he cant forgive.forget either.]

its so simple..[watch dogs..or children]
one second./.their pure..cute love/next demonically challenged
[as the bible says..BEWARE..of what you think..your thoughts MAY/be entertaining angels,,[or demons]..unaware

mikk..WE ARE HERE/now..incarnated..[sewn..into..skins]
because we WERNT..good enough..for our bodies off light[in heaven]
nor stained our soul..with hurtful passions to go to hell.[last time]

next time..realize..that hate..of others
stains our very soul..the heavier it gets..the more bound..to it we are.

i..know..my..impatience..too stains my soul
but its like poisen..as jesus said..who..is without sin?

victims get caught-up..in..a poor me.,.but..because their victims
dont mean/much..till/they..can forgive..they get..sent back...here.

sometimes bully..other times the victim
but joy..is only..one small act..of forgiveness..of other
to get grace,..you..must first give it

[being forgiven..only sticks..if..we..'go and sin..no more.
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 28 November 2013 7:07:31 PM
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Realities are more important than ideas

231. There also exists a constant tension between ideas and realities. Realities simply are, whereas ideas are worked out. There has to be continuous dialogue between the two, lest ideas become detached from realities. It is dangerous to dwell in the realm of words alone, of images and rhetoric. So a third principle comes into play: realities are greater than ideas. This calls for rejecting the various means of masking reality: angelic forms of purity, dictatorships of relativism, empty rhetoric, objectives more ideal than real, brands of ahistorical fundamentalism, ethical systems bereft of kindness, intellectual discourse bereft of wisdom.

232. Ideas – conceptual elaborations – are at the service of communication, understanding, and praxis. Ideas disconnected from realities give rise to ineffectual forms of idealism and nominalism, capable at most of classifying and defining, but certainly not calling to action. What calls us to action are realities illuminated by reason. Formal nominalism has to give way to harmonious objectivity. Otherwise, the truth is manipulated, cosmetics take the place of real care for our bodies.[185] We have politicians – and even religious leaders – who wonder why people do not understand and follow them, since their proposals are so clear and logical. Perhaps it is because they are stuck in the realm of pure ideas and end up reducing politics or faith to rhetoric. Others have left simplicity behind and have imported a rationality foreign to most people.

233. Realities are greater than ideas.
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/francesco/apost_exhortations/documents/papa-francesco_esortazione-ap_20131124_evangelii-gaudium_en.html#Realities_are_more_important_than_ideas
Posted by one under god, Friday, 29 November 2013 6:31:05 AM
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This principle..has to do/with incarnation..of the word/and its being..*put into practice:..“By this you know/the Spirit of God:..every spirit..that confesses that/Jesus Christ..is come in the flesh..is..from God”(1 Jn 4:2).

The principle of reality,..of a word..already made flesh..and constantly striving..to take flesh anew,..is essential to evangelization.

It helps us to see/that the Church’s history..is a history of salvation,..to be mindful of those saints..who inculturated the Gospel in the life/of our peoples..and to reap the fruits/of the Church’s rich..bimillennial tradition,..[without pretending to come up with a system of thought..detached from..this treasury,..as if we wanted to reinvent.the Gospel.]

At the same time,..this principle..impels us to put/the word into practice,*..to perform works..of justice and charity..which make that word fruitful...TO/Not to put.the word into practice,..to/not to make it reality,..is to build on sand,..to remain in/the realm of pure ideas..and to end up..in a lifeless..and unfruitful self-centredness and gnosticism.

The whole..is greater..than the part

234. An innate tension..also exists between..globalization and localization...We need to pay attention.to the global so as to avoid narrowness..and banality.

Yet we also..need to look to/the local,
which keeps..our feet..on the ground.

Together,..the two prevent us..from falling into..one of two extremes...In the first,..people get caught up in an abstract, globalized universe,..falling into step behind..everyone else, admiring..the glitter of/other people’s world,..gaping and applauding at all..at..the right times.[like..trained/beast..reacting/tothe crack..of a whip].

At the other extreme,..they turn ..into a museum of local folklore,
a world apart,..doomed to doing/the same..mundane..mindless/unthinking/things over and over,..and incapable..of being challenged by novelty or appreciating..the beauty which God bestow.. beyond their/own..narrow/mind..projected-borders.

235...The whole is greater..than the part,..but it is..also greater than the sum of its parts...[and each/part..is vita;]..There is no need,..then,..to be overly obsessed with limited..and particular questions.

We constantly..have to broaden/our horizons..and see the greater good which will benefit us all...But this has to be done without evasion or uprooting...We need to sink our roots..deeper into the fertile soil..and history of our native place,[cultural/custom..which is a gift of God..wrought..by our beloved..departed.
Posted by one under god, Friday, 29 November 2013 6:43:51 AM
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Through an exchange..of gifts,secrets].the Spirit
can..lead us ever more fully..into truth and goodness.

Relations/with Judaism

247. We hold the Jewish people in special regard because their covenant with God has never been revoked, for “the gifts and the call of God are irrevocable” (Rom 11:29).

The Church, which shares with Jews an important part of the sacred Scriptures, looks upon the people of the covenant and their faith as one of the sacred roots of her own Christian identity (cf. Rom 11:16-18).

As Christians, we cannot consider Judaism as a foreign religion; nor do we include the Jews among those called to turn from idols and to serve the true God (cf. 1 Thes 1:9).

With them, we believe in the one God
who acts in history,..and with them..we accept his revealed word.

248. Dialogue and friendship with the children of Israel are part of the life of Jesus’ disciples...The friendship which has grown between us makes us bitterly and sincerely regret the terrible persecutions which they have endured,..and continue to endure, especially those that have involved Christians.

249. God continues to work among..the people of the Old Covenant and to bring forth treasures of wisdom which flow from their encounter with his word. For this reason, the Church also is enriched when she receives the values of Judaism.

While it is true that certain Christian beliefs are unacceptable to Judaism, and that the Church cannot refrain from proclaiming Jesus as Lord and Messiah, there exists as well a rich complementarity which allows us to read the texts of the Hebrew Scriptures together and to help one another to mine the riches of God’s word.

We can also share many ethical convictions
and a common concern.for justice and the development of peoples.

Interreligious dialogue

250. An attitude of openness in truth..and in love must characterize the dialogue..with the followers of non-Christian religions, in spite of various obstacles and difficulties,..especially forms of fundamentalism on both sides.

Inter-religious dialogue is a necessary condition for peace in the world,..and so it is a duty for Christians as well as other religious communities.
Posted by one under god, Friday, 29 November 2013 1:41:07 PM
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