i can..only..agree..lexie..but know..that god
above..everything..must/be fair..and..more important..*seen..to be fair

thus..there caN..NEVER*BE..ultimate-power..by
one..'side;..or the other..the more..that yankies paid..for science to/build..more..in usa..the more that ussr..spent..on building..more there too..

ok..the 'commies'..went broke..[first]..dis-allowed..maintenance/servicing ..of..what they had...to deteriorate[]..in the end..the 'workers;..each*got..a share..of what was..by then well..and truly..broke/busted..

yet..when..we..in the west..went bust
[our govts sold .off the public assets.banks/services
and when all that ..new capitalist asset..needed new-cash..govts further went broke..bailing the rich..shadow masters out..[sorry i..forgot where,..i was going..ok...the commies got share's..and..we got looted.

you said..<<..The/obsessive focus..on/the threat..of weapons..as the way to..avoid war..also..blinds us..too

the..central question..Is./.anything that we value..so important that it justifies..risking..the destruction/of..everything-else..>>

in..the next realm..its..all perfect..but to..get there
we first..need to stuff..it up..[be tested]..right-royally..[to destruction..?'..here

this is..only..the fore-taste..before eternity
here..we separate..the lovers/from..the haters

<<..the murderof hundreds of..millions of people..and the jeopardizing..of ..our very own..species?>>

all life..has one*good/forgiving/living/loving-father
[species..is a men/thing..god just knows us..by..*the things we love..with..a passion..[and..he thus..gives us..the best means..body]..to achieve it..

[beasts love..the beastly things]
and..the beastly..have no place..in..eternity..thus they[WE]..live..here.now..[till..we get-it].

all of us..*here..have one thing..in..common
we wernt..evolved enough..to reside in..eternity..[yet]

so our father gave us..the way..plus the means..
to achieve..our lusts/loves/perverted beastly.passions..

[un-till we lust..to serve other..till
we CAN..give grace.,..we are unfit..to..receive grace.

<<..Why can't...we divert..unprecedented energy..and resources
to the real..problems that face us..>>

because we..as..[mere]..huh?-man..expect/worse karmic/blow-back?
we/arnt..ready..to..leave..our beastly needs..[simply be]..here..?

<<..including poverty,..>>

yes..poverty...one percent of us.owning 60%..of
seemingly everything..[thing is ..they DONT..even..own..it..
[its mortgaged..to the bank..or in..a family trust]...[but wealth..isnt the problem..

the poverty..is..but*

in..the astral-plane..the poor..live in palaces..
[this is..how they..perceive it]..but..the selfish..elite..
feel the..same hovel..is like a cage..of ice..that burns like fire..[the 'fire'..is the past/passions..of the fruits..misery..their theft..of the wealth..yeilds its return

<<..Instead of..destroying we/should be..looking at ways..to enhance the life..on our planet...on which..billions of..us...share our adventure.>>

sadly..[and i..talk from...experiences..
giving the pig pearls..only..saw the pearls..despoiled..they dont grasp values]..govt..should be tasked..to making it..*easier..to do the right..things..

and more difficult..to do..the vile things

never the less..this..[satans realm]..is THE ONLY..PLACE
where pure..love..and pure hate..can..freely decide..*to change sides

come-on..shadow..take a walk..in..my shoes
i said..hey..babe..take a walk..on the mildside,..[in-]..side.

Foxy,

A whole jumble of words does not alter the fact that pacifism and reliance on the UN will not serve Australia well.

To be practical: West Papua, a case example of the UN's effectiveness (sic),

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2012/03/201232172539145809.html

otb,

If you want your opinion to be respected you
need to respect the opinions of others even
if you don't happen to agree with them and referring
to someone's posts as you did with mine as a "jumble of words," is
insulting to say the least.

However, I shall let it pass this time.

Back to the topic.

Many factors may influence the decision to go to war - the
personalities of the leaders, the influence of nationalist,
religious, or other ideologies, the extent of popular support
for war, the anticipated economic gains or losses, the
ambitions or advice of the military, perceptions or
mispercpetions of the other side's motives and intentions, the
expected reaction of the international community, and, of course,
expectations about the likely outcome of the conflict.

But one factor that seems particularly likely to encourage
war is preparations for it.

A military build up by country X may make country Y feel
threatened, leading Y to begin a defensive build-up.
Country X perceives the new build-up as a hostile move and
increases its armaments, proving to Y that its suspicions
about X were right all along and that more arms are needed -
and so on.

In general, militarized nations tend to fight with other
militarized nations, and countries that prepare for war
tend to become engaged in war.

What is being questioned here is the modern world's obsession
with preparations for "defense" (it's never called "offense").
Many countries spend more of their budgets for military
purposes than they do for education or medical care.
Over the past quarter century, global spending for military
purposes has consumed budgets in the trillions.

This represents a colossal diversion of funds from socially
useful goals, for example, a single hour's worth of these
expenditures would suffice to save, through immunization, the
120,000 children around the world who die each day from
preventable infectious diseases. I am not advocating
pacifism. What I am advocating is a balance in our priorities.

They are about to remove 1300 rods from Reactor 4 at Fukushima and have not a clue about the dangers. Prof Michio Kaku, David Suzuki Dr Helen Caldicott ,Dr Arnie Gunderson and many others say if reator 4 goes up,they should evacuate all of Japan and the West coast of the USA.

Michio Kaku says that 3 reactors are in total melt down and the radiation released so far is thousands of times Hiroshima. This is a global catastrophe that is being covered up.http://fairewinds.org/ Arnie Gunderson of Fairewinds is a nuclear engineer with 40 years experience in decommissioning Nuclear reactors.

Arjay, and we have the lunatic conservative right supporting this madness throughout the world. What hope is there for us people of good will of ever preventing this, and other craziness, when the imbecilic fools cannot see the folly of their foolishness. What do they ever hope to gain from this, can you tell me?

Foxy,

I gave the example of West Papua as just one example why Australia should never rely on the UN. There are many more and not restricted to military invasions. The UN is highly political in what it does and not interested at all it would appear in Australia preserving its cultural identity and traditions, for instance. But then you might agree with the UN there.

Australia would do well to emulate Switzerland in its pacifism, be so defensive of its sovereignty and well prepared that any likely aggressor would think first of the cost.

Australia could spend much more on health and other concerns if it curtailed the victim industries that were unanticipated negative outcomes of Gough Whitlam's social 'initiatives'.