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lets NOT..talk..of depleted uranium..

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war
http://voiceofrussia.com/2013_11_09/Libya-from-bad-to-worse-5029/
http://en.alalam.ir/news/1533675
http://www.naturalnews.com/042864_measles_outbreak_mumps_vaccines_scientific_fraud.html

http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2013/11/vast-wasteland-effort-spent-americas-rampage-middle-east/

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/11/03/israel-pulling-the-strings-of-nsa-surveillance-program-james-fetzer/

I read that six thousand people have been killed by sectarian violence so far this year in Iraq,..alone[how about egypt saudiasyria..palistein..war..its great mate

http://www.democracynow.org/2013/11/11/the_untold_story_of_war_us

Killing remains a daily occurrence, including regular instances of American special forces murdering civilians, drugs flow freely through the country and out to the world, and most women still wear the burka.
http://the-japan-news.com/news/article/0000788290?

Libya is reduced to rag tag bands engaged in fighting like rival gangs of bandits. Syria writhes in agony as the victim of an artificially-induced civil war with even the use of nerve gas on civilians by America’s proxy fighters winked at and lied about.

Such are just the continuing aftershocks of America’s violent, senseless campaign on the Middle East and the Muslim world.
http://www.examiner.com/article/again-all-us-talk-on-iran-s-nuclear-program-are-obvious-lies

The screams of the hundreds of thousands of initial victims of cluster bombs, Hellfire rockets, depleted uranium explosions, and white phosphorus were what Condi Rice once described as “the birth cries of a new Middle East,” likely just before she set off on another shopping spree to New York for more cute new shoes.

You might say Condi and her psychopathic associates assumed the God-like perspective in their work, as the people being devastated were regarded with the importance of ants being squashed by gleeful children in a playground.
http://12160.info/video/netanyahu-goes-off-script-on-iran-deal-i-ll-not-be-silenced

Ideas of “nation building” around all the slaughter and destruction are now almost forgotten in the press where they were once earnestly discussed like big government social programs of the 1960s.

It is hard to know whether those ideas were ever taken seriously in Washington
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5kwBeqjZZg
No clear-thinking person ever took the idea seriously,

http://digitaljournal.com/article/361939?

but as we know there is not a great deal of clear thinking in times of war, nor is there much of it at any time among American politicians.

till..now?
http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2013/11/12/229942-john-kerry-unfiltered-in-his-own-words/
http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/us-iran-deal-will-shut-israel-war-plans/
http://en.ria.ru/world/20131110/184629970/Putin-Saudi-King-Discuss-Syria-Iran---Kremlin.html
http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/americas-deep-state-waging-absurd-wars/

The notion that you can change the basic culture and social structure of a nation of tens of millions over a foreseeable time span is laughable..
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/exclusive-us-blocks-publication-of-chilcots-report-on-how-britain-went-to-war-with-iraq-8937772.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP-zJPHyamI&feature=player_embedded

http://ancreport.com/podcasts/podcast.php?id=54
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 14 November 2013 8:47:31 PM
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SM, the only complete fraud is the US and their murder of millions. No need to be a Yankee apologist with "DU has such a low level of radioactivity that it is barely measurable and as for toxicity it is roughly equivalent to lead." Abbott will do that job for you. Didn't Daddy SM say Agent Orange is good for you son, as those Aussie conscripts sailed off to that crazy Asian war! And Grandpa SM said Mustard Gas wont hurt you boy, over the top you go! Conservatives always lie about these things, how else do they get our youth to be cannon fodder in their never ending phony wars?
With the war in Afghanistan appearing to be winding down with a American/Australian defeat, can you lets us in on what will be the next poor third world country the US military-industrial complex will be unleashed upon. I tip it will be Iran, but maybe you have some inside information on the subject. Naturally our new warmongers in Canberra will be chafing at the bit to "get involved", doing what ever Uncle Sam demands.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 14 November 2013 9:06:21 PM
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Depleted uranium is actually less radioactive than raw uranium ore. And uranium ore isn't all that radioactive: it's only enriched uranium which is dangerously radioactive.

I'd quite happily sleep with a chunk of uranium ore on my bedside table because I've studied enough nuclear physics to know that people who live at high altitudes or travel a lot on planes will cop a higher radiation dose (cosmic rays) from their lifestyle choices. So will people who have to undergo a lot of medical scans (not so much a lifestyle choice). I'd rather wear a brooch of yellowcake for a year and eat a steady diet of brazil nuts than have a CAT scan because the yellowcake and brazil nuts will expose me to less radiation: if the medical profession considers CAT scans to be a reasonably safe procedure I'm at a loss to understand why we should be scared of DU.

DU is nasty stuff, but only in the same way that conventional lead muntions are nasty stuff. DU is used in munitions because it is denser than Pb: the wallop it packs is all down to old-school Newtonian mechanics and has nothing to do with nuclear physics. You could probably get even more effect out of osmium munitions but the cost would be prohibitive.

Dense materials don't just make good bullets. You know those shields they give you to protect yourself during X-rays? They're made of Pb, because Pb is dense and cheap. When it comes to radiation shielding, density is important. In situations where you want really good shielding from radiation they often use DU because it is a much better shield because of its density. How much sense would it make to fashion a radiation shield from a material which is also dangerously radioactive? None at all.

I'm all for banning munitions. But DU is a fairly safe and quite useful product when it is used properly: I don't consider blowing peoples intestines through their spines to be a good application but we shouldn't let ill-use diminish the value of a material.

Cheers,

Tony
Posted by Tony Lavis, Friday, 15 November 2013 12:13:03 AM
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Sargent shultz..sees only..that govt can..do no evil
it is imposable for the poor-boy..to concieve his own..govt pumping 350 tons of the junk into him..[in arosol mist form..]

its not the radioactivity..you dumb gernmain
its cause its a mutagene..[it kills nerves..mutate ya sperm..]
creates gulf war sindrone..[its a heavy metal..that is used to re-build ya bodies cells..but rebuilding them wrong]

think of it like mercury

http://www.ccnr.org/du_hague.html

no..freaking..govt-lawyer
would let the real facts get out
geez..public liability/plausable deniability..

if you knew what they..would really do to..you
just cause the..zion-master [satan..for short]..tells them to.
then just maybe..the shill in..you would be crying not deneying..too

here vaporize..some more
into ya guts..before even ya brain rots

heavy metals is good..just like trans fats..and smoking
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=depleted+uranium+side+effects

its sad..people so much more clever than me drink..the coolaide
take the blue pill..ya dill..[drink..the mercury from ya thermometer..if ya think heavey metal is good..just sprinkle it onya food like salt

sometimes i think..the shills really do believe the lawyer spin
but mostly..they are there to do their job

asbestos is only glass fibre..
yet it kills ya..you wouldnt breath in..asbestus dust[but wait..its inya brake pads..in ya diesel[micro-particulate is the biggest cause of lung cancer

but..its poisen
and war is..murder

two wrngs..cannot make it right
think..please think..stop defending the indefensible
try adding to the info..that may..shorten..or see the ending the murder..

any..idiot can justify anything..in ignorance
i note you affirmatively use-full idiots..[generically/not specificly..]..dont provide proof..to your re-assurance,..there only water in them shower roses..not sarin gas

get into a battle..breath-in..the 'fog'..of war
you..*know..human bodies are pulverized into that dust..
you sucked into your lungs..but..that 'fog/of modern-war..is much more..

it will mutate your kids..[vital-body systems]....thats for sure

in fact..here is proof..of what it REALLY does do
so as you suck it up..by..sucking in the coolaide
look at the fruits..of just 350 TONS*

http://api.ning.com/files/yrG0YlPnk7Fxb1euI2aboBQK0hgvezFmutwbgwL6WHYipltYXcn3H5x*H8Geakkt7Hq*TfbjRVacjGv9sUECxPeLivm5hXFi/Effect_Of_Depleted_Uranium.jpg?width=435&height=577

bah..hun-bug..jesus must feel..so proud..of your ignorance
Posted by one under god, Friday, 15 November 2013 6:41:19 AM
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This post indicates that the writer does not understand nuclear decay.
The fact is that a 4.5 billion half life indicates that "pure" U238, even in moderately large quantities, is not a nuclear decay hazard. U235 occurs in nature as 0.7% of the uranium in the ore as found and U235 is a hazard in concentrated form.
"Depleted" means that the shorter half life U235 (fissionable) has been removed from the concentrated natural ore.
The Linear No Threshold theory of radiation danger is a furphy. When life evolved on this planet the natural background radiation was much higher than it is now.
In one recent case of long term accidental exposure in a building in Taiwan 8,000 people were exposed to an average exposure of 400mSv over 20 years. The people were tracked and it was found that the health effects appear positive. For that number of people the predicted cancers outcome was 242, whereas, compared to an equivalent sample of citizens without the exposure the expected cancer outcome was 186. The actual cancer outcome was 5 (five). Robert Hargraves asked in his book, "Is chronic radiation an effective prophylaxis against cancer?"
Posted by Foyle, Friday, 15 November 2013 7:16:12 AM
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underdog,

"The World Health Organization, the directing and coordinating authority for health within the United Nations, states that no risk of reproductive, developmental, or carcinogenic effects have been reported in humans due to DU exposure." Which is less than for lead.

Perhaps you could refer to a real organisation rather than the nutjobs you presently rely on.

However, exposure to DU or lead at high velocities is frequently fatal.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 15 November 2013 10:03:57 AM
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