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PM not wanting to discuss issue

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This will most probably hot be the only disappointment That I witness with the government, but the unwillingness to talk about this important issue is of concern.

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/abbott_dodges_debate_on_muslim_integration/

Sooner or later this matter of migrant integration must be addressed if we would like a cohesive community in Aus. It is obvious that some cultural aspects prevent some from being part of our society.

All very fine to have an ideology of non-discriminatory immigration but in practice it does not work to aour advantage.
Posted by Banjo, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 12:04:33 PM
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Get used to it banj

This is not the only thing they have gone silent on.

"The economic emergency" is nowhere to be seen.
The NBN website has disappeared.
The boats are being hidden not stopped.
Faceless men applies to pretty much the whole lieberal front bench these days.

Add that to the misogynist cabinet, the shameless rorting of expenses, the embarrassment of rabbotts remarks overseas and the spiteful removal of various appointees simply because labor appointed them, not whether they can do the job, and all in all it has been an appalling start from an appalling throwback of a government. The same one we threw out in 2007 just without the coward and costello show.

This is a government of shonks and scammers. How long before we see another AWB scandal or a children overboard lie? How many more weddings have these crooks got lined up. How many books are we paying for them to buy?
Anyone checked their phonecards yet?
Posted by mikk, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 5:08:18 PM
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Never mind, Banjo.

This government if doing what it can to ease your fevered brow.

They're hiding the boats.

They've made it mandatory for the department to refer to them as illegals.

And it seems the dehumanisation is working - with an instance of an officer being disciplined for referring to asylum seekers by number instead of name (very Nazi Germany, don't you think)

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/30/officer-disciplined-for-calling-asylum-seekers-by-numbers-instead-of-names?CMP=twt_gu
Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 5:25:37 PM
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Banjo,
The problem is that "multiculturalism" is just a word, it's not an ideology, a statement of an aspiration or a belief system.
How can Muslims integrate into something if nobody else is part of it either?
The problem is that nobody is "integrated" or excluded by virtue of race or ethnicity, let alone trivial concerns such as religion. Are White people part of multicultural Australia, do they hold any equity in such a system? Are Aboriginals? Orthodox Jews? Filipinos?
There is no mainstream as such into which people can integrate, no widely held or commonly accepted viewpoints or standards and the reality of a multi-racial society is that the stark differences between races and ethnic groups come to the fore, not the small areas of common ground.
The future is not in integration it's in ever greater diversity, by that I mean diversity in the literal sense, not in the way Anti Whites use it. What I'm talking about is society becoming literally multicultural and literally more diverse with genuine, stand alone ethnocentric enclaves and identity based communities replacing what we have now, which is a civil society pretending to be blind to diversity. Anti Whites believe that by diversifying formerly White societies they can at some point integrate and finally assimilate all the people into a new nation, then presumably the process would begin again.
Your use of the term "Social Cohesion" is telling, thirty years ago the chattering classes were talking about assimilation, now presumably having taken stock of the real situation out in the REAL world they're only talking about taking responsibility for peacekeeping duties in an ever more diverse society.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 7:28:58 PM
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mikk,
You are obviously full of hate, so you will not give the government a chance to see how they go. Your comments are not worth a reply.

Poirot,
The boats have slowed and I am convinced that they will be stopped if the government is determined enough. I agree that the illegals should be properly named as the illegal entrants that they are. I have been referring to them as illegals for years.

You both have to accept that Labor was thrown out because of complete and total incompetence.

Jay,
I you recall the Howard government dropped the term 'multiculturalism' and was just letting the thing die. With Scott Morison as Minister I think there will be moves to remove MC entirely.

It is of concern that the PM evades the issue of integration. There have been many incidents that indicate people of some cultures do not want to be part of our society.

I cannot recall the previous government ever being questioned along the same lines, although Gillard did raise the MC matter on a couple of occasions but it did not fly, so it was dropped. I think Scott Morrison would answer the questions far more positively.

I say again we need to stop immigration of those groups that have shown us they have contempt for our laws and social standards.
Posted by Banjo, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 8:07:25 PM
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Banjo and JayOM, racism is an ugly word, but stopping immigration of all Muslims from anywhere in the world would result in Australia being called racist by the rest of the world, and rightly so. All trade with Muslim countries would stop for a start.

If we were wanting to exclude 'terrorists' from our shores, then we should have stopped ALL Irish immigrants in the past, because any of them could have been members of the radical Catholic organisation, the IRA?
We didn't though, because we knew not ALL the Irish Catholics were a problem, and the immigration laws could weed out any potential problems.

What's the difference with Muslim immigrants?
You can't tar them all with the same brush, just like we can't say that all white Caucasians are racist towards anyone different from themselves.

This country was built on multiculturalism, and it remains the best country in the world to live in, so I say we continue on as usual as far as immigration laws go.
Posted by Suseonline, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 8:54:11 PM
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