Don't you consider Paul, that we should send all these Tongans back to where they come from.

We don't allow people to take the law into their own hands. Beating someone to a pulp, or attacking them with a machete may be acceptable behavior in Tonga, but it is not here, regardless of any verbal provocation.

These islanders are far too prone to attacking people, & Oz would be better off without them.

NZ has problems from Islanders too. Isn't the sly route to Australia via NZ? What cooperative action should Aus and NZ take to prevent that happening and hopefully to return what are illegal immigrants anyhow?

Aotearoa has a total population of about 4.5 million, two thirds are of European ancestry and 15% are Maori, about 680,000. The numbers from Pacific islands is around 300,000. Cook Islanders, Niueans and Tokelauans get automatic citizenship but Samoans, Tongans and Fijians don’t and they account for about 200,000 of the total islander population. In the overall population the only uncontrolled migratory group are the 2% from mainly the Cook Islands.
Beach I can’t see how you can claim “NZ has problems from Islanders” and as for the “sly route to Australia via NZ?” No evidence of that either. In fact the problem with Kiwi’s migrating to Australia is with NZ, they suffer a loss of their best and brightest and they don’t like it, not Australia, Kiwi migration is a net asset for us.

Hasbeen, If you have Foxtel, the History Channel is running a very good series at the moment on the Rise of Nazism in Germany, you should tune in, you'll get a kick out of it, just sub the word Jew with all those ethnic groups you want to vilify.
The Tongan lads were wrong, but as for sending all these Tongans back to where they come from. No... the "machete" comment was definitely said to put the frighteners on the white fella, it seemed to have the desired affect.

"These islanders are far too prone to attacking people, & Oz would be better off without them." Not from my experience Hasbeen, in the past few years I've been with my partner I have attended many events, fund raisers, parties etc all sorts of socials with lots of Maori and Islanders and there's never been any trouble. Yet years back I would go to the footy at the SCG every Saturday. Without fail there would be a drunken brawl every week on the 'Hill" and there wasn't a Maori or Islander in sight. White fellas were far too prone to attacking people. Have they changed?

Paul1405,
You have obviously never been on the wrong end of a vicious malicious and race driven attack by Pacific Islanders.

These people have no respect for the white races, probably with cause,and will attack in a pack at the drop of a hat.

They have been cannibals and headhunters for centuries.

They laugh as they kick someones head in on the ground and look to their peers for approval.

They get here through New Zealand and at the moment here in Cairns have even the local aborigines and West African scared crapless.

The government is moving rapidly towards including these ethnic gangs in the "criminal Gang Laws" but most of us in the job feel that it is too late.

The difference between the bikie gangs and the Islander and ethnic gangs is the bikies have something to lose the Islanders have nothing to lose and territory and status to gain.

If you feel for these people Paul1405 move to NZ and try to integrate. I am sure the Maori would love all the support they can get.

onthebeach
"the sly route to Australia via NZ" is a fact of life.

Because these Pacific Islands are protectorates of NZ once their people actually get to NZ and remain resident there for six weeks they are entitles to an NZ passport and a visa to Australia.

Once here they can apply for citizenship and you don't have to be employed to get the magic piece of paper from the GG and then straight onto the dole or in most cases the Disability pension for being obese.

It Magic so who needs people smugglers?

As usual, no Aussies involved.

What can i say, Multiculturalism, seemed like a good idea at the time!

Chris, I don't have a problem with minority groups, you ask
"You (Paul1405) have obviously never been on the wrong end of a vicious malicious and race driven attack by Pacific Islanders." No Chris it must be the uniform that brings it upon you.
"probably with cause" can you elaborate on those causes, could it have anything to do with coppers?
"They have been cannibals and headhunters for centuries." Not this century. When I visit Brisbane and go to Logan with my partner, we have never had any trouble there, in South Auckland we walk around at night, no trouble, "T" has whanau living in Manurewa, we must just be lucky.
Living in a relatively isolated community like Cairns, you may be getting a distorted view of the rest of the world. Couple your isolation with your obvious inbuilt prejudices towards minorities and your views could well become extremely distorted.
The European inhabitants of North Queensland are not particularly known for their tolerance of others,
Are you not in that part of the world where not so long ago they were 'blackbirding' Pacific Islanders, you know turning them into slaves. that practice continued into the 20th century, up that way long after even the Americans had outlawed slavery.
As for you Chris, are you still throwing gays into the Parramatta River? a bit far to travel for a bit of fun, I suppose. Now you could try throwing some of those obese islanders into the Barron River, make a change, but don't get a hernia.
"If you feel for these people Paul1405 move to NZ and try to integrate. I am sure the Maori would love all the support they can get." Might just do that one day. Bay of Islands looks good.
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