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The value of women

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I want to share a portion of a talk given at the latest conference for the church I attend. I would like to know your thoughts?

"Attitudes toward human sexuality threaten the moral authority of women on several fronts. Abortion for personal or social convenience strikes at the heart of a woman’s most sacred powers and destroys her moral authority. The same is true of sexual immorality and of revealing dress that not only debases women but reinforces the lie that a woman’s sexuality is what defines her worth.

There has long been a cultural double standard that expected women to be sexually circumspect while excusing male immorality. The unfairness of such a double standard is obvious, and it has been justifiably criticized and rejected. In that rejection, one would have hoped that men would rise to the higher, single standard, but just the opposite has occurred—women and girls are now encouraged to be as promiscuous as the double standard expected men to be. Where once women’s higher standards demanded commitment and responsibility from men, we now have sexual relations without conscience, fatherless families, and growing poverty. Equal-opportunity promiscuity simply robs women of their moral influence and degrades all of society.9 In this hollow bargain, it is men who are “liberated” and women and children who suffer most."

D. Todd Christofferson
http://www.lds.org/general-conference/2013/10/the-moral-force-of-women?lang=eng
Posted by RandomGuy, Sunday, 27 October 2013 10:13:06 AM
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RandomGuy, could female equality begin at home?

http://www.exmormon.org/mormwomn.htm
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 27 October 2013 7:58:29 PM
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In your dreams.
Women should be allowed to be who they want to be.
They should not have to conform to the dreams of men as to who they should be.
Leave the religion out of the equation and then we may have a level playing field.
Interesting read all the same.
SD
Posted by Shaggy Dog, Sunday, 27 October 2013 8:08:06 PM
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the value..of woman
depends on..the value of the man

equal-time..or else its spun
god gave woman..the gift of life..[co-creator]
that there..is their..moral-authority[used as a hook..but then..ignored

i..will presume..
a quote..<<.."Attitudes>>

irrelivant

<<..toward human sexuality>>..

concerns *both sexes..equally
[what is good for goose..must be good for the gander]

<<..threaten..the moral/authority
of women..on several.fronts.>>

ok..moral..authority...of women[or mothers]

thing is..we were talking..about sexuality/.
.both sexes/then..moral authority..[of women]

THEN*.attack..the spin-agenda

<<..Abortion..for personal..or social convenience>>

moral-authority?
or authorized moralization..

under the cloak..of sexuality-attitudes..moralauthority
[abortion..comes after sex..we were talking..pre conception
..
now suddenly we jumped..to abortion?..ignoring
the real-issue..MORAL-AUTHORITY..OF WOMAN*

it..reeks of adgenda

<<..strikes at.;the heart of a woman’s
most sacred-powers..and destroys her.moral authority...>>

says who..by what proof?
but at least..we drift back..the pre coitus
that needs apply..EQUALLY..with/to..over/at..men

<<..The same..is true of..sexual
immorality..and of revealing dress>>

THAT GUYS..LIKE TO..THINK..about.
[immoral-thought...[delusions/fantasy...]
all..natural..guilt or joy is shared..bothy scared.

[only hate..is un-natural..
love is love..hate is hate

a revealing dress dont indicte..low mortals..
thinking like that's..a sickness

<<..that not.only debases women..but reinforces..the lie
that a woman’s sexuality..is what defines her worth.>>

oh..i thought..sex was man/woman..
woman sexuality..is her business..i will..trust..them to..speak for themselves

the same applies to..slutty men?
dangling their bits..under their shorts..
or..men are so holy/pure..in..our/mode of dress..and sexual..morals?

oh dear..its..all..so..pot/kettle
Posted by one under god, Sunday, 27 October 2013 10:33:23 PM
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Random Guy, what sort of church has 'talks' like this ?
It seems like a step back in time to before the '50's!

If only women had no rights over their bodies, or even in what they can wear, then wouldn't that make the world a better place 'morally'?

What a crock of ...!
Posted by Suseonline, Sunday, 27 October 2013 11:57:34 PM
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RG for a start Churches, all of them from every faith, seem to want to keep women under control.
This world would be a better place without Religion getting involved with sex.
Troubling to see they are still impressing views on us all.
Individual freedoms are to valuable to be controlled by any group, just tell me what place would your God have for women in heaven?
Like men on their knees but ten rows behind the men?.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 28 October 2013 5:20:06 AM
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