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Serial rapist release.

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Dear Suse,

John Howard realised the laws were not going
to be easy to put in place because of the anti-gun
control lobby however, he felt it needed to be done.

As he said, "Penalizing decent law-abiding citizens
because of the criminal behaviour of others seemed
unfair ... I understood their misgivings ... but I
felt there was no alternative."
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 11 October 2013 10:59:49 AM
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Foxy, you said "....We need only look at the stats regarding this topic.
The ABS stats clearly show that killings have decreased
since the introduction of gun control laws by John Howard
as the link that I gave earlier clearly showed."

The ABS figures clearly show that gun crime/killings was steadily falling before the introduction of Howard's attempt at Uniform National Gun Laws and that it continued to fall at the same statistical rate.

The gun laws did not affect it at all.
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 11 October 2013 1:55:27 PM
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Is Mise a low blow from you there.
Highlighting that a footballer unnamed and unknown may be a rapist.
Not much doubt from any section of the community such folk live and yes rape.
Even the currently very clear to those who will look CATHOLIC CHURCH.
Petty stuff from you.
Rape is never OK it always is wrong.
Here in this thread a claim hasbeen made that if victims carried guns less rape/crime would be a result.
Firmly I count myself with an over all majority who I have no doubt,thinks the idea silly.
I too wish to highlight the pure nonsense that sports men and women are more likely to rape than others, as a slur from a person needlessly and wrongly targeting a group whilignoreing the true nature of rape.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 11 October 2013 2:25:09 PM
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One of the good things the US has going for it is that the citizenry is too well armed, & too belligerent for any president or government to ever take their democracy from them.

We on the other hand would probably have trouble raising a militia capable of defending ourselves against Fiji.

If we needed another Kokoda type effort, we wouldn't have enough citizens capable of pointing a rifle to form a militia.

When I was a kid, everyone in Townsville had a pea rifle to help keep the flying fox menace down to a reasonable level.

Now we have no rifles, & flying foxes are protected. And we wonder why our society is collapsing.
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 11 October 2013 2:25:32 PM
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Dear Is Mise,

I based my information on the following two links:

http://guncontrol.org.au/
(note the graphs given)

And

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/08/02/did-gun-control-work-in-australia/
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 11 October 2013 2:36:06 PM
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Dear Hasbeen,

Do we really want a homicide rate here in Australia
far exceeding that of any other industrialised nation
like it is in the US. Do we really want our cities recording
more murders in a typical year than does the whole of
England, as they do in single American cities like Chicago,
Houston, or Los Angeles. Do we really want our handgun
homicide rates to be hundreds of times the average rate for
England, Japan, Sweden, Switzerland, and Canada, as it is
in the US.

There's much to admire about the United States - but no
restriction on private handguns isn't one of them.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 11 October 2013 2:45:48 PM
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