onthebeach,
Do you actually believe that Martin Bryant was the only shooter, that someone with little or no shooting skills firing from the hip was able to place single bullets into the heads of 29 people out of some 31 shots using a A4 and AR15. The public has never seen these guns and the autopsy reports have never been released.
I have used them both in combat and I can assure you they are not that reliable in the military let alone the product marketed to the public.
Sure he was there, the patsy, but he was also a patient/inmate at the Tavistock Institute in England.
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/tavistockarticlesindex04jun04.shtml
I remain skeptical at best.
Why hide or censer anything?

Suseonline, "Gee OTB, I hope you aren't suggesting our society should have more liberal gun laws because of all the violent mental health patients out there that need shooting?"

That idiotic statement so you, as was your,"If this rapist was raping men, he would never get out of jail."

The sole robust, effective control is the firearms licence. A determined offender will break any law. 'Gun control' spin and red tape won John Howard an election. Because it only applied to people who were already obeying the laws, it accomplished squat.

Since Martin Bryant has been mentioned, he did exactly what OMG bikie thugs and any other criminals do. Bryant had no Tasmanian gun licence, obtained firearms illegally and used them for illegal purposes. The 'military style' weapon he used was illegal and had been surrendered to police in a gun amnesty.

The inconvenient truth is that Howard's 'gun control' would not have stopped Martin Bryant. Nor has it stopped the drug trafficking OMG bikies from importing guns and shooting one another.

Neither Bryans nor OMG bikies have anything to do with the law-abiding, respectable members of society who have licences.

Gun control is solely aimed at making gun ownership difficult and expensive for the law-abiding, reputable citizens who are already certified by police as men and women of good character who have never committed a criminal offence and would be very unlikely to do so.

The Howard inspired gun control directed the police weapons branches and police generally away from criminals and onto good citizens, who in their thousands now have all of their personal particulars and other information recorded on police computers as 'persons of interest'; the firearms licence flashes on police screens even as they are pulled over for a routine traffic check; and they are subjected to random flying visits of uniformed police to compulsorily enter to inspect in their homes.

Further, if any firearm, part of one or even a useless empty cartridge case is stolen from a licensed person, the holder of the licence could charged with an offence.

Chris gaff 1000 I answer you because you are a balanced poster but ignore fools naming me a lie teller.
Chris you have devalued the words of a Police commissioner.
Of course I know much more than guns are the target of such raids.
And as you will know, as any intelligent poster will, legalizing guns will see many thousands more on the street.
My guess would be at least 700.000 of them.
As a result of that number wise men/women know the price will be greatly reduced and some true thugs and idiots would find a way to arm them selves.
I stand firm, I believe far more Australians would oppose such a move to make guns freely available than side with you.
*The view the victims can stop rape bashings and robbery by carrying a gun and using nit it madness*.
The gun could be taken from shaking hands and used to murder the victim.
To call an innocent man a lier based on inability to understand is weak and foolish.getting to be a long term habit for that poster.

In line with the OP's drawing attention to repeat rapists, may I suggest a read of < http://www.criticalidealism.net.au/blogfiles/deathpenalty_linx.pdf >
which deals with rape in Australia.

From the final paragraph "....point during The Grand Final : it is a statistical certainty that there are rapists who have gotten away
with it in the grandstands, and a statistical probability that at least one of them is running around on the field. And most importantly of all : Australia's rape victims for just one year would fill this
grandstand. Jill Meagher's murder was a horrible crime, but we're fooling ourselves if we think of it as an isolated incident. Why is her death alone reported ad maximum, while the couple of hundred rapes that also happened that week were ignored, and all that valuable airtime devoted instead to sport?"

chrisgaff1000,

Sorry, the post count delayed my reply to you.

I can't help much on what you are asking except to say that the evil mongrel Bryant is where he should be and my hope is that he rots forgotten in gaol.

Dear Suse,

We need only look at the stats regarding this topic.
The ABS stats clearly show that killings have decreased
since the introduction of gun control laws by John Howard
as the link that I gave earlier clearly showed.
And as we know in international terms, the United States is
an extremely violent society with a homicide rate far exceeding
that of any other industrialised nation.
Most other countries severely restrict private handgun
ownership, and the US which doesn't - their homicide rate
is by far higher than the average rate for England, Japan,
Sweden, Switzerland, Australia and Canada.

I'm also glad that I live in Australia and not the US.
As I stated earlier - the proliferation of handguns is
the belief deeply held by many Americans, that gun ownership
is an individual right. However, for granting this liberty
to the individual, American society pays the price in the
deviance of those who abuse it. And it's a very high price
to pay.