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Are irregular arrivals a wartime secret?
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Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 1:19:02 PM
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Not trying to be a smarty or to annoy any one.
But already Abbott has feet of clay. Those thinking he is a savior are in for sad times. Locking his crew up not allowing free comment. Backing away from his date to get the budget balanced. Nearly destroying his relationship with Indonesia. Not telling us how many boar arrivals are coming. The man is a fraud. Rupert seems to have him on the leash reserved for people he owns and Tony is OK with that, but not his party. Rumbles of true discontent are here already watch for the storm by mid next year. Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 3:10:25 PM
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There are some very short memories being paraded here.
In her quest to buy Australia a place on UN's Security Council and to promote herself, Julia Whatshername's very frequent trips abroad always featured the golden shower of millions of taxpayers' dollars in foreign aid. The fortunate recipients didn't have to ask for it. Meanwhile at home the survivors of catastrophic floods were all but forgotten. Rudd was the same. Who can forget Rudd's shower of gold for Indonesia when he regrettably politicised Indonesia-Australia relations hoping to prove he was a diplomat and to score political points against Abbott? <A GIFT-LADEN Mr Kevin Rudd will arrive in Indonesia today for his first overseas visit since his reinstatement as Australia's Prime Minister, amid fierce criticisms of his "irresponsible" warnings of a possible conflict with Jakarta. Mr Rudd is set to present numerous gifts to Indonesia's President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, including second-hand C-130 Hercules planes, Customs patrol boats and substantial development aid, all worth hundreds of millions of dollars. In return, Mr Rudd is seeking to persuade Jakarta to crack down on the flow of asylum-seeker boats that sail from Indonesia to Australia - an issue that, perhaps more than any other, threatens his prospects of winning Australia's upcoming election, particularly if he fails to stem the flow. Mr Rudd will also try to revive live cattle exports to Indonesia, which halved its imports after Australia suspended the trade in 2011 amid concerns of cruelty at Indonesian abattoirs.> http://www.stasiareport.com/the-big-story/asia-report/indonesia/story/asylum-seekers-top-rudds-indonesia-agenda-20130704 Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 3:58:03 PM
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OTB,
Yup! Labor = lots of talking and no results. Coalition = Less spin, and more results. Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 3 October 2013 8:55:09 AM
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just great to have adults back at the helm despite having to clean up the childrens mess. One day they might learn to do it themselves but from Gillards whinge and victimhood speach you can see they have learn't zero.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 3 October 2013 9:24:04 AM
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Yes indeed, Mr Abbott has discovered that it is
very different being in government than in opposition. When Labor wanted a regional solution to the problem of asylum seekers and regional co-operation, the opposition wouldn't have a bar of it. Yet, now that Mr Abbott's the new PM - and after meeting Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono Mr Abbott acknowledges that, "it would be much better if the co-operation was at the bilateral level." Mr Abbott has now gone from boat tow-backs to "total respect for Indonesia's sovereignty, a total respect for Indonesia's territorial integrity." And to sweeten the people smuggling pill, Mr Abbott has annouced a $15 million commitment to a new Australian Centre for Indonesia Studies based at Melbourne's Monash University, to "build trust and understanding" between the two countries. He even apologised in a dinner speech for Australia cancelling the live cattle trade. Will he sell Australian land to Indonesia? And what other concessions will be made? Interesting times lie ahead. Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 3 October 2013 10:59:49 AM
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What he did was back-pedal a hundred miles per hour - because all of his turn back/ buy the boats chest-thumping was for domestic consumption to win an election.
Faced with the reality of dealing with a neighbour of no small quantity, his pre-election jockeying can be seen for the fiction it was.
I'm not surprised he tip-toed around like the novice he is.
On the subject of statesmanship...how is barring Indonesian journalists acting statesmanlike?..after a full on state visit?
Can you imagine what would have been said if Obama had tried the same insulting stunt on Australian journalists during his visit?
Abbott is not a statesman's bootlace.