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Are irregular arrivals a wartime secret?

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SM,(Minister for roolly clever namies)

What sort of ding-battery am I arguing with?

You spend many posts telling me about the Coalitions Tow back policy.

and then you write:

"If you want to prove your point, please show where at any time where Abbott claimed that towing back the boats is coalition policy...."

So, to sum up:

Abbott reckons they never had a tow back policy. (lies, but that's what he said)

You keep challenging me to prove they did, insinuating that I'm making things up....and that nothing could be further from their policy formation.

...and yet you delight in trumpeting about the tow back aspect of their present policy.

Yep.., nuttery!
Posted by Poirot, Friday, 11 October 2013 12:49:48 PM
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Lucyface,

Again with the bollocks! Clearly you have not read the convention, because if you had, you would realize that it only deals with the treatment of asylum seekers once they are within the territorial boundaries of the host nation. The convention says nothing whatsoever about anything that happens outside of territorial waters.

In fact torpedoing an illegal boat outside the 12Nm limit, while it would be illegal for many other reasons would not infringe the convention on refugees.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 11 October 2013 12:55:13 PM
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"In fact torpedoing an illegal boat outside the 12Nm limit, while it would be illegal for many other reasons would not infringe the convention on refugees."

Yeah, you wouldn't have to hear the asylum claims that way.

At least have the bollocks to get behind withdrawing from a convention we're cheating on.
Posted by Luciferase, Friday, 11 October 2013 1:02:19 PM
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Dear SM,

This might clarify things for you:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-10/abbott-splitting-hairs-on-tow-turn-difference/4994592
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 11 October 2013 1:32:39 PM
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Lucyface,

Once again, please read the convention, it is not a long document, and would help prevent many of the ignorant statements you have made.

While the left whingers go on about us violating the UNHCR convention, the reality is that the pacific solution complied with every single line in the convention.

Yet another illegal boat free day.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/policy/people-smugglers-targeted-in-joint-crackdown-by-australian-indonesian-authorities/story-fn9hm1gu-1226738304026
Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 11 October 2013 1:45:04 PM
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Dear SM,

There are many maritime and international laws
that pertain to the treatment and -
obligation of shipmaster's in how they deal with
people in distress at sea.

You can Google these laws
and read them for yourself. The Refugee Convention
is only one specific document to which we are
signatories - but there are international
laws that we are obligated to abide by.

Luciferase has raised some valid points.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 11 October 2013 1:55:38 PM
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