Climate change is a very serious problem that needs to be addressed, it is not helped by fools who insist on grabbing at straws. See below for a factual rebuttal of the ridiculous claims coming from the climate skeptics.

http://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2013/9/17/science-environment/ipcc-got-it-wrong-or-5-stages-denial.

On the related subject of the carbon tax I ask the following questions:-

Who's in favour of having no roads, laws, police, eduction or health care? or to put in it another way not having having taxes?
So does anyone genuinely believe that we should not put a tax on those things that cause harm such as pollution ?

Even if we believe that CO2 is not a pollutant there is no way that we can extract, and burn fossil fuels on a large scale without causing pollution. The amount of nasty chemicals that are dumped in the atmosphere, when we burn coal is mind-boggling. I find it truly amazing, that a tax on pollution should be meet with such antagonism, and believed to be a great evil, by it would seem the majority of the population.

'Abbott and his cronies in politics and business are driven by the short sighted profit motive and show no regard for the future of the planet.'

what a joke after so many in the warmist industry fleecing the ignorant and gullible of hard earned taxes. Many have learned nothing from Europe's foolishness. Get over it guys the carbon tax was a lie and a con. It does not take to much humility to admit you were gullible.

From a link within the link warmair provided:

" Dr. John R. Christy calculates, even if the U.S. achieved a 50% reduction in CO2 emissions by 2050, the net impact would be a reduction in global average temperature of a practically undetectable and inconsequential 7 hundredths of 1 degree Celsius."

That's right, even the U.S. should all sit on its hands because one (mighty) nation alone can't make a difference. Now where else have we heard that?

Australia must at least reach its internationally agreed reduction target, but Abbott's lip-service approach to "Direct Action" while repealing carbon pricing won't get us there.

PS "ozdoc", please come back and give it a shot. Don't worry about SM, he's harmless really.

please get educated
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/climategate.php

i keep hearing silly things

<<>.So does anyone genuinely believe
that we should not put a tax..on those things..that cause harm such as pollution ?>>

absolutely..by all means tax pollution*!*
but dont go saying that i agree c02=pollution

polutants is everything harmfull
GET IT..?<<that cause harm>>..

EVERy POISEN..they add
into our soils airs waters AND OUR BODIES

[like mercury in teeth..[and in vaccines]
or fluoride..designed to dumb us down..
or gmo...[attached to live-virus]

radiation.
micro-particulates

go sip..your soy latte'
grown..upon the corpse of the clear felled amazon

stop..the word poison[spin]
you wanna pay tax..
TAX..THYSELF

when will..you see this really is satans realm?
criminals get away..petty crooks sit in jail

hold the liars to account
seize their proceeds OF COLLUDED CRIME
[dont forget to 'tax' their lackeys too

you got conned
by professional liars
guilt implied..someone lied

"I find it truly amazing, that a tax on pollution should be meet with such antagonism, and believed to be a great evil, by it would seem the majority of the population."
Warmair I don't. Those that ultimately profit to the tune of trillions of dollars from pollution caused by the burning of fossil fuels, big oil, big coal, big business, will do anything to prevent those profits from being threatened in anyway. As for the majority in our society, the conservatives are masters at the scare campaign, just tell the people they are threatened in some way and many will jump on board. At one time the big bogie was the communists, and now the terrorist, you can add the global warming scientists to that list as well.
Those that profit the greatest from the way society is structured and operates are the ones that fear and resist change the most. Since they are a minority in our "democratic" society, they use a small portion of their wealth to convince others of the rightness of their way through any means at their disposal. Abbott and his government are a political tool, claiming to represent the people, but in reality they represent the vested interests of big business. That's not to say that this government will not appear to be doing some good some of the time for the people, under our political system any government has to be seen that way otherwise they are in danger of not being reelected at a future date. A vote for Labor does not change the status quo it changes the emphasis but not much else.

crosszombie quote..<<..less cloudy weather>>

hear what he..is saying
havnt you..noticed..on nights
where there is NO CLOUD*..the night temp is cooler

[just recall..back..pre thatcher
london/fog..[cloud]..[industrial/polution]..
[clouds of the poison..of industry/smoking chimneys]

ALL*..blanketing in the heat*

but heat..has knock on affects..
ie look to industrial..[in-dust-real
ie dust..[particulate..that forms rain..[ie percipitation]

by cutting the pollution
[causing 'acid rain'..we lost the REGULAR*/cooling..rain

yet the moisture..is still up there
only now not cloud..yet still..*blanketing in the heat

there is so little dust..up there
when..an event..[that produces particulate]..does come..
all the rain..comes all at once
http://intellihub.com/2013/09/18/fema-asks-volunteers-colorado-flood-stop-go-home/

but back to cossszomby..
<<<..less cloudy weather..meant colder weather>>
more cloud means hot?

<<..in winter..even in lower latitudes/altitudes,..resulting in a feedback process.>>

and chuking bull..'dust'..
into..spin..wont ever make it rain

reinstate the dust..
you then got regular rain..instead of invisible cloud

[humidity]..dont ever rate a mention
but humidity increases electrical conduction

so does acidity
not sure what that all means..
but im so over govt taxing me to death

frightrening us with eternal wars..[lies again]
http://www.tomatobubble.com/id334.html

wanting to kill 2/3 rds of the useless eaters
http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/david-attenborough-stop-feeding-third-world-nations-to-reduce-population/70934/

http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/downturn-despair-suicides-spike-in-age-of-austerity/70905/
baling out the socialist/capitalists