Hockey is on about you can't trust treasury figures again. Probably means he can't plug the hole he had at the last audit. They are going to get independent costings done like the last time.
We have heard this before, and it didn't work.

It looks like Dudd's incompetence is becoming the coalition's greatest asset. His policy on the run is classic Dudd and is unraveling just as quickly as it used to the last time, showing that labor is just as useless no matter which lying head it has.

Seems the question of trust is now being debated between Rudd and Abbott.

Isn't it about time we dropped personalities discussions and concentrate more on which overall party is best to govern?

Poirot

Has the last few years not finally demonstrated to you that Rudd's sole aim is to rule, regardless of disastrous poorly thought out policies made in haste, and the effect this has had [ and is once again having]on all of us. Of course he'll promise us what he thinks we want to hear, but promises and delivery don't go hand in hand with this con artist salesman, and we should be remembering his previous failed policies when we vote. Too many people can be influenced by smiling chubby cheeks, and don't look past this façade.

He is a ruthless [think JG] egomaniac - only good at glad handing, but watch your back. Why do you think he lost so many of his senior ministers? It is obvious they couldn't face another bout with him at the helm.
He does not represent the Labor party! He never has listened to his senior ministers, and has ignored their advice and input. He is selling just the brand Rudd, and some deluded people are falling for it, but those canny people smugglers haven't. Even they are calling his bluff again - 16 boats with over 1200 people since his PNG 'solution' was announced 7 days ago, and 5 more on the way right now.

worldwatcher,

Rudd just promised me something I didn't want to hear....

Can you supply me with a good reason to vote for Abbott...because he hand his motley shadow front bench don't impress me either.

Abbott's stop the boats has been around for some time and at the last minute he is scrambling to get something together even if has been in existence since 2005.
Tony is looking down lately. i think there is something on the table.
Gonsky has come into favor, Joe doesn't know what is going to come up next, He is not going to trust that treasury mob, he is getting his own figures done so they at least match his.
So what has Abbott got hanging over Rudd's head now besides nothing.
Nauru was the go , but it doesn't get a mention any more. So he has gone back to a system that has been there since 2005. albeit upgraded by a star.

Wounder just who and what folk think they are getting in voting for Abbott.
Surely some do not understand just what he has planned.
I am like every one, waiting for the election, we may wait until the first 5 or 6 hundred boat people are in PNG.
But while talking about trust?
Some gamble big time in taking Abbott on trust.