Remember *Joe the flying peanut* I was left wondering how people could follow, even like him.
A recent book published heaps even more evidence that he was a criminal and a lier on his grave.
Yet he is loved still?
This thread is giving me reason to think I have found my answer.
Some folk consume lies some could be sold the Sydney harbor as a swimming pool.
If it was their side who sold it to them.
Rechtub lies? gee mate you area funny bloke.
You know my words in my first post are satire, or do you?
To be a deep thinker mate you would need to read a book dressed in deep sea divers gear 10 fathoms down.

Belly,

Julia has arisen from the deep and said things to create a terrible pong around Rudd.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=5933

Is she telling lies or is Kevin Rudd, or are the lies meeting somewhere in between?

Are they just the opposing sides of the same $3 note?

This election is shaping up to be one for the books, with perhaps many, like myself, contemplating casting their vote 'below-the-line', so our preferences go where we want them to go. A cliff-hanger in the making.

It must be odds-on to be a hung parliament, with some Greens and Independents holding balance of power - at least in the Senate. So, will it matter if Rudd or Abbott is at the helm?

Rudd, the pseudo statesman and wannabee global diplomat (who insists on repeating the same thing three times, so we are sure to 'get' the message); or Abbott, the Rhodes scholar who comes across more as a dyed-in-the-wool one of the 'boys', ever ready to pitch in and to shovel sheit with the best of them (but not very 'statesman-like')?

Hawke provided a new approach, and a new 'vision' of Labor, a heartily revised and well-balanced semi-socialist approach, and achieved much - with much support from Treasurer Keating. But, Mr Rudd is no Hawke, and has embarked on a wider and much diverged vision for 'new Labor'. Aspirations of 'heritage' clearly mark his campaign for recognition, and his irrepressible and irresistible 'ambition'. Where may he be heading, and with us trailing along, to an as yet undetermined 'promised land'?

Howard and Costello also set a path, and the GST wasn't so bad (and is a life-blood to the States), and constructed a 'future fund' for education and infrastructure post the mining 'boom'. The economy was steady, and in surplus. Work Choices pushed the pendulum a tad off-centre to the right, but the wheels didn't fall off, and employment and wages were steady and favourable. But, Howard failed to heed the stirrings for 'progress', for innovation in labour relations, childcare, flexible working arrangements, parental leave, and greater recognition of the role and expectations of women - although we tend to forget that the 'office for women', sex discrimination, and 'affirmative action' provisions were well established and clearly proactive. Staid, but a bit too 'stale' was the verdict. A fully justified consensus? Or, out of the frying pan?

Abbott is no Howard, and Hockey no Costello; but then, Rudd is no Hawke, and no-one of the calibre of Keating is in sight.

For my money, policy for the protection of the Tarkine and the preservation of Tassie's Heritage habitat will be foremost in my assessment of the true credentials, vision and ambitions of these various contenders, for we, as a nation, are in the end defined by what we leave for future generations, for the future of humanity.
Vision, or pure populist propaganda? Many like me will be watching.

Saltpetre,

I reckon if you and your party are roolly roolly popular, you're allowed the luxury of vision.

If you're neck and neck like these two geezers and their cohorts, then you'd probably opt for populist propaganda.

Sorry mate, but with the latest outpourings of "populist propaganda" on refugees, I find the choice between a popgun admiral and advocate of malarial gulags....a tad underwhelming.

In the end a fact stands unchallenged.
Tony Abbott remain a Labor asset.
His poor polling can be ignored but will be seen the day after the election.
Do we ignore the mans faults, his failure to give us policy,s.
Do we let him ride in to office on his horse named Negativity.
I hope he remains leader, until after the election.