Boaz, you are a rabble-rouser.

As I have mentioned to you before, on my bookshelf I have Mosley's autobiography "My Life".

He was one of Europe's most charismatic folk heroes, leading the UK Fascist movement in the 1930s. People turned out in their tens of thousands, Boaz, to hear his message.

He - as you do - picked on any and every news item that supported his world view, and repackaged it for his speeches to the English working-class.

You repackage them for OLO with a similar agenda: to rouse your "fellow Australians" to rant and rave against Islam.

Mosley's target was Jews. Yours is Muslims.

I also have the DVD of Leni Riefenstahl's "Triumph des Willens" which she made as a "historical record" of the 1934 Nurnberg Rally. I play it to remind myself that propaganda is propaganda, no matter how beautifully it is presented.

It may well be that your headline is prophetic, and a world war is the outcome. If so, I hope you will stand up and be counted afterwards, and be prepared to stand trial for your part in its genesis, and not rush off to South America.

Until I joined this forum I was under the misapprehension that we as a civilization have made some forward progress since 1933, but it is becoming increasingly clear that I was labouring under massive self-delusion.

Why is it that we still feel the need to fire each other with hatred for our fellow human beings in order to gain some illusion of self-worth?

Have we not learned the basic lesson from the fear and loathing that grew to become the Nazi regime and the holocaust? That it is the responsibility of every individual to resist the temptation to sow hatred and suspicion, as opposed to nurture it as you, Boaz, are doing here?

I can refer you to a number of German citizens who were alive in the 1930s, and can explain to you first-hand how and why it is an immensely powerful, and dangerous, activity.

Hi Pericles,

http://www.panarmenian.net/news/eng/?nid=18514

Read and enjoy

http://www.a1plus.am/en/?page=issue&iid=40215

Read and enjoy

See, how the 'christians' react to these blasphemous acts.

Jesus Cartoons Everywhere and Christians Are Not Rioting .. Why?

I "Googled" and "Alta-Vista-ed" the phrase "Jesus Cartoon" this morning and found that there were quite a few to choose from. Most were from Christian sites, some from anti-Christian sites, some were whimsical, some were coarse and degrading, many were from European sites (mostly German with cartoon dialogues that defied translation by Babel Fish). There were even political cartoons from American newspapers.

When I was finished I checked for "Muhammed Cartoon" and found . . . nothing. Google and Alta Vista have apparently blocked access to the many Muhammed cartoon caricature that are everywhere on the internet these days. Even the newsworthy Danish cartoons that kicked off the current Islamist riots have been censored by these search engines.

I am sooooo glad that these internet gateways have no problems guiding me to all the pornography I (don't) want to find but are thoughtful enough (or scared of having their throats cut) to protect me from finding the images that have set off major international rioting.

A search for "Piss Christ", however, delivered over 45 "hits" (just of the image itself) on Google and 31 on Alta Vista. Go figure. Sure.

Apparently images of Jesus, no matter how demeaning or insulting, do not create a threat of rioting, burning down an embassy, boycotting a nation or beheading somebody. Clearly, the American news media are not afraid of Christians.

obozo, I'm not quite sure what your point is, but when I typed "Muhammed Cartoon" into Google, I got 4,040,000 hits, plus a polite question "Did you mean: Mohammed Cartoon" which I tried, and got another 2,230,000 hits.

Right at the top of both is the Wikipedia entry covering the Jyllands-Posten affair.

So your suggestion that search engines are somehow imposing anti-christian censorship is baseless.

As it happens, I believe that the Muslim reaction to the Pope's statement is over the top, and a deliberate escalation of the heat that - if he had only thought about it for a moment -) the comments were bound to create.

That does not make it any less irresponsible for every tom dick and harry to use the situation to push their own anti-Islam barrows.

Hi Pericles,

That was on the day after Cartoon-riots took place and hope you see my point.

If Mohammed is alive doing his nasty things today, I will not hesitate to call him a paedophile and a mass-murderer.

To those angry muslims: "Catch me if you can and do your jihad on me. "

Having lived 4 years in a Muslim dominated country I'm surprised that people haven't woken up to the inevitability of the world being divided into Muslim and non-Muslim warring camps. The baloney that most Muslims are 'moderate' is only allowing the muslims to get stronger, especially while the West keeps sending them huge amounts of oil money and attempting to appease them. We are in the early stages of an all-out global war and the West should defend itself without trying to be so 'nice'. Kick all the Muslims out of Europe, America and Australia and send them back to 'the Muslim world' so we can get on with it, seriously. I abhor violence but I also value freedom.

Again to all:

Dear Pericles, I have a link which I believe you would be MOST interested in. It's the writings of a man (Aussie) called 'Inky Stephenson' who was interned for 3 yrs during war2 for his 'suspected disloyalty'.... from what you tell me of Mosely, and what I've read of him, this man is either runner up or a clear first. (I'd_never_ heard_of_him_till_2_days_ago)

His writings are quite remarkable, on Australian Cultural foundations, and other touchy topics. Please have a read of
1/ "A Reasoned case against Semitism" http://home.alphalink.com.au/~radnat/stephensen/prs3.html
That is pre ww2 by the way.
2/ Foundations of Australian Culture
http://home.alphalink.com.au/~radnat/stephensen/prs4.html

This is part of a collection found on the Australia First Party website, but don't let that deter you. I didn't know that until I read some of his stuff, and it doesn't matter to me as I'm not a particular fan of some of Australia First's goals. I'd value your comment as an English bloke.

My Target is in fact "Islam" as an ideological force. Targeting "Muslims" is futile and pointless and definitely unChristian. On a personal level, my closest acquaintance at gym is an Iranian Muslim.(He is nominal,not fundamentalist).

As an aside, their version of "Up Sh_t creek without a paddle" is having a "pregnant wife".. wierd huh... in their culture the poor bloke is totally sidelined and helpless, his wife is surrounded by all female visitors.

ATHAIR
your Quranic quote is correct. For balance there is another as follows: Surah 9.30
Due to their (Christians) belief that Christ is the Son of God they are:
1/ Cursed by Allah
2/ Allah fights against them
3/ May Allah destroy them

The Quran itself is not the sole source of Islamic law,and while it is silent on 'forceful conversion' the Hadith and Histories fill in the blanks. Read this link please:
http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/Books/MH_LM/campaign_of_tabuk_and_death_of_ibrahim.htm

then scroll to this paragraph "Ibn al Walid's Campaign against Dumah"
See how clearly Mohammed's offer to Christian Prince Ukaydir was 'Islam.....or death'(by Implication)
So...its not so much what the Quran 'says' but what Mohamed 'did'.