Belly,

The real phony is the "new" Krudd who only says what the electorate wants to hear irrespective of the consequences.

boats a problem, then organise another talk fest for a regional solution,
deficit a problem for labor, then promise a surplus in 2017,
carbon tax a problem, then go to an ETS and leave a $9bn p.a. hole in the budget,
single parents payments a problem, then bring it back, who cares where the money comes from,
etc etc.

Dear Belly, are you really going to blame Abbott (and the Greens) for the deaths at sea? That is really sad. The ALP is the GOVERNMENT! Abbott is the OPPOSITION! The ALP owns the tragic deaths because it was your gov't that changed the policy that worked successfully under the Liberal gov't for six years. And 'Windsock' Beazley went to the 2001 election without an immigration policy.

I do feel sorry for you and Poirot because you are valiantly fighting for a lost cause. Please give it up and stop killing innocent people. Wake up to yourselves...... you are wrong and you know it. I know Poirot called me a bore because she has heard all this before, but perhaps she cannot come to terms with the truth.

SM,

(From post on other thread)

Btw, I have to wait a couple of hours to post this in the Abbott thread.

About you telling me I'm the one telling porkies. It's no use trying to stonewall.

That "personal blog" belongs to the journalist, Margot Kingston.

The only reason that this matter was raised in MSM this week is because of her research into the matter of Slipper's and Abbott's expenses. She is the source of the story.

Far from being her personal opinions, These are documented facts sourced through FOI and evidenced in letters to and from Slipper and Finance.

http://nofibs.com.au/2013/07/04/a-familiar-afp-smell-over-slipper-and-ashby/

These letters are included in the link above.

Look at the one from David Tune, of Finance, dated 17 June, 2012.

It reads,

"Prior to the AFP investigation, Finance had no concerns with your travel paid under entitlement on those days....To the extent that Finance has received any further information on those days, it would only be from assistance provided in response to AFP queries during the course of the AFP's investigation."

What is it about actual letters from Finance to Slipper that you find hard to deal with?

Don't fall back on the old line "It's only a personal blog."

This blog contains factual documentation. Have you sourced any factual documentation that proves the contrary?

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The upshot being that if Finance had "no concerns" with Slipper's travel on those days - why would they refer the "non-matter" to the AFP?

(And that's in addition to your dismissal of Kingston's email reply from Finance)

"Hi Margo,

No, the Department of Finance and Deregulation did not refer this matter to the Australian Federal Police.

The matter was separately referred to the Australian Federal Police by a third party.

Regards,

Tameena | Communications and Public Affairs"

There appears to be proof that Finance "did not" refer Slipper to the AFP.

You bleating the they "did" - is just you bleating that they did.

(Finally got this post on the right thread)

GK I will try to tell you some truths that seem to have avoided you.
Abbott, do a poll, does not want the boats stopped.
He thrives on folk like you, unaware of the situation.
He stopped the Malaysian solution.
Not to stop kids being returned *but that line gained him green mates*
But to keep Labor on the mat, and being blamed for Abbott,s negativity.
Now GK hope you are still with us.
*READ THE POLLS* Abbott is about as unpopular as Gillard was!
think only a few could think Negative man is other than the polls show, unloved even by many in his own party.
Do the maths!
Backing Abbott is like putting your house on the clerk of the courses horse to win the Melbourne Cup.

Belly,

Fair go! You really shouldn't be overlooking Kevin Rudd where lack of popularity in one's own party is concerned. Apart from the mutterings about Julia Whatshername, there wouldn't be a political leader in Oz history who was unpopular as Kevin 07 is with his colleagues. His own mates went public to say how mentally unfit he was to lead: fits of rage, poor decisions, wouldn't listen, messes everywhere, one man band, foul mouthed, unspeakably rude to a young woman stewardess and so on.

Then Kevin spent three years undermining Australia's first woman PM, upsetting the handbag hit squad, the harridans of Emily's List and other feminists. During that time there was an earlier attempted beheading of Julia Whatshername and Kevin Rudd was even more ferociously criticised and damned by his parliamentary and union colleagues. They said he was quite off mentally and should retire.

After finally dislodging Julia, Kevin13 lost half of his front bench. Practically all of the senior ministers wouldn't work with him and left the building. His helpers are still phoning around offering presents to anyone who will come back, but they don't.

Belly, you really must not hide Kevin13's light under a bushel. He has the aptitude and form for getting everyone around him very, very angry. Kevin13 is the Mr Brittas of Oz politics. We should be proud of him for that, our very own Mr Brittas. But in charge of a whole country, not a Council gymnasium.

Cripes, imagine crossing Kevin13 with Sarah Hyphen-Hyphenated from the Greens: the pup would be mad, spinning in circles, barking incessantly and constantly biting itself. Such a mating is possible if there is another Greens+Labor partnership.

Dear Belly,

Here's a better perspective on what's really happening:

http://www.independentaustralia.net/2013/politics/rudds-return-ruffles-reckless-abbott/