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What Does Mr Abbott Stand For?

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P,

Hypocrite?

No comment on Pjerk doing exactly the same thing?
Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 13 July 2013 1:32:01 PM
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SM,

I would assume that if Labor have passed legislation, that it is part of their policy.

(It would be silly to push through legislation that isn't policy - Yes?)

Double-standard and hypocrisy is very much at the fore at the moment, especially on the subject of travel expenses.

I notice Pyne saying last night that Finance was responsible for Slippers case going to the AFP.

Not true!
Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 13 July 2013 1:41:57 PM
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Most Bills provide money or slight updating modification to existing legislation for services/arrangements that have been in place for yonks, are not contentious and all support them.

As well, if the Opposition is said to be supporting the greatest bulk of Bills (80%), Abbott and the LNO can hardly be called negative. The Opposition must be positive.

This Labor government is notorious for its knee-jerk reaction of passing laws as 'solutions', even where faced with minor problems that would probably self-correct in time. That is a difference the Left is always noted for.

The Left simply does not trust its own supporters to be capable of making their own decisions and managing their own lives. Labor is BIG on State control over individual lives and has no problem finding every excuse to involve itself in the private lives and affairs of citizens.

The hamfisted, complicated laws affecting de factos is proof of that. After Labor's re-jigging, courts and bureaucrats decide one's de facto status and federal agencies disagree on particular cases.
Posted by onthebeach, Saturday, 13 July 2013 2:05:47 PM
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P Jack just hear me out please.
On reading SM s post naming you p jerk, ignore it.
It is not worth it, believe me it is not.
Some, including me, left this site after locking horns with the bloke.
We lost good posters for that matter good Libs/conservatives too.
You must see the site for what it is, this country,s best but too more a Liberal one than our side of the fence.
Let us too remember the old sayings have great wisdom within them, do not count our chickens before the eggs hatch.
Abbott is no true Liberal, his understanding of economics , remember the words of Costello!
If the next polls confirm last two?
Liberals will dump Tiny target Tony!
We live in interesting times.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 13 July 2013 3:48:03 PM
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P,

Policy is often implemented by legislation, but sometimes not. Also not all legislation is driven by policy.

For example KRudd's demolition of the border security needed no legislation. alternatively, legislation determining electoral boundaries for example is not driven by policy, rather by the AEC.

As far as travel expenses are concerned, Kevin's schedule includes 6 overseas commitments in 6 weeks, and TA's travel schedule and bookings are not done by him personally. As far as dishonesty in politics is concerned, Labor has by far the most corrupt MPs incl Thomson and now the member for Bennelong.

And as far as Slipper was concerned, his fraudulent usage of travel WAS referred to the police by the Finance dept. Please check your facts before calling anyone else a liar.

http://www.news.com.au/national-news/peter-slipper-summonsed-by-australian-federal-police/story-fndo4eg9-1226549056082
Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 13 July 2013 5:04:58 PM
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I wasn't calling you a liar, SM.

That's your particular avenue of delight on this forum.

However, you are the one who should check his facts, as the Department of Finance didn't refer Slipper to the AFP on the matter. Slipper was referred "directly" to the AFP.

Don't balk at this article because it's not from MSM - It contains letters to and from Slipper and Finance concerning this matter.

http://nofibs.com.au/2013/07/04/a-familiar-afp-smell-over-slipper-and-ashby/

See letter to Slipper from Finance dated Oct 4, 2012, wherein is contained the passage:

"This matter was referred directly to the Australian Federal Police (AFP) and was not handled by the Department of Finance and Deregulation under the Minchin Protocol."

Why not?

Double standards.

Funny business......
Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 13 July 2013 6:07:54 PM
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