Can I ask how many on this thread will actually get to Vote for Mr Rudd or Mr Abbott? If you are not in their electorates you will not get to vote for either. This thread is merely spouting popularity opinion on Rudd V Abbott, and not genuine policy of either Party, for which the leader has to represent. VOTE FOR YOUR BEST LOCAL CANDIDATE!

Tell us about your local candidates if you want to talk about personality, otherwise talk about Party Policy if you wish to make a genuine political debate.

I have asked several times in this thread for any Abbott supporters to produce even ONE fully and properly costed Abbott policy.

No Abbott supporter has been able to supply that one policy.

Says it all.

Of course, what will happen is that "fully and properly costed .. ha ha ha ha" policies will be produced by Abbott within about 1 week of the election. That's because it will greatly reduce the time for the public and the experts to undertake appropriate scrutiny. Just like what happened in the last election. It's one of the main reasons the Coalition lost that election. They never learn. Also, those costings were revealed to be fraudulent and misleading and GROSSLY underestimated the "real" costs. Hockey is an economic amateur, in addition to being a very angry, aggressive and immature individual.

Julia gets an office and staff, even after she has retired. So does The Rodent. The Rodent still needs staff and an office? For what? I don't understand why this is never questioned.

Why don't you start a thread titled "What Does Mr Rudd Stand For?"

I don't care what he stands for. Whoever the likes of Shorten and cronies put up for a figurehead, based on their latest whim, is not really relevant to me. It's the party that is the problem, it is just as bad as the Obeid party in NSW. It's fun to watch as a SOAP Opera. I call it The Rabble.

The NLP are the NLP, screwing the workers, born to rule, meh, and the Nats are a bunch of crazy red necks, same as it ever was.

I vote in my electorate, I don't vote for a leader.

You sound to me like someone that has watched too much The West Wing, wanting to be inspired by a visionary with integrity, with some warm and fuzzy leftie sensibilities:-)

'Hockey is an economic amateur, in addition to being a very angry, aggressive and immature individual.'

What Jolly Joe Hockey? I reckon he comes across as quite a nice guy. A buffoon, but quite a nice one. I don't think I've ever seen him angry or aggressive.

A joyful greeting to all, on both sides.
Clearly we can if we look, see the fear in conservative eyes.
At last Labor has a leader.
One people like, now there is a change.
And some have come down to fibs, any one else see Iam a nutter or some such thing claim Labor voted to stop 457 visa?
Gee fear makes some say strange things, Aussies first, if not 457 is not voting against it.
Wondering, is the poster a front bench in Abbott,s team?
They use terminological inexactitudes rather than policy,s.
Polling should prove Labor has done the right thing, but some continue to rant we should not have tried to win the election.
Go down nicely with the person AUSTRALIANS would not elect.
Poms are kicking Rudd for being better liked than the lady of the knife?

Houellie,

I have never watched an episode of The West Wing.

I know you like to take the crown of the head cynic around here....

But I wuz only asking a question.