o sung wu

the incestous Labour party has brought this nation to its lowest point and wants to preach their 'morals' to the army. Sorry mate I share your disgust. I feel very very sorry for young girls if they are looking to the current leaders as role models. I am sure their must be role models somewhere but they certainly never get any press. I just hold a little hope (not much) that the Liberal ladies might be able to lift the bar a fraction. At least they are part of the quota/union/lawyer etc etc. The men nodding their heads behind these woman are just as bad.

Come on Runner, these practices and morals go back much further than the Labor Party. Even our original ANZACs came home riddled with syphilis and had very unsavory reputations when it came to civilian women in war zones.

Nowadays the minds of our soldiers are deliberately altered to remove all compassion so they can burn women and children on our behalf - without remorse and on command - and that glorious knowledge is what what keeps you safe at night.

The real problems begin when they come back home.

For somebody who always bleats on about the sanctity of life you have little grip on the reality that we also kill many more innocent people after they are born and for nothing more than political and financial reasons.

'Come on Runner, these practices and morals go back much further than the Labor Party. '

you may be right Rache but never on the same scale.

Hi (again) HASBEEN...

I'm very sorry to hear of the unfortunate situation that transpired between your Daughter and her partner. As it often happens a veteran returns home from a combat zone, without any form of psychological debriefing or organised 'calming' before he's released back to his unit ? I don't know how you found him yourself HASBEEN, upon his return home ?

Did you have the opportunity to observe both his behaviour and his attitude towards your Daughter ? I'd near bet he was responding to some hidden trigger that prompted some dormant episode of PTSD ? Despite his feelings for your Daughter, the emotional 'pull' to return him back to where all the action is, was too great to overcome his feelings for your Daughter, sadly ?

I spent over three years at the Repat and the Vietnam Veterans' Counselling Service where we had these small group therapy sessions every week or so, where each of us spoke of our respective lives. Many of the blokes didn't work, most were on TPI Pensions. I was still in the job, but I had a 100% Pension. All of us had PTSD, unfortunately. Never mind.

HASBEEN, I'm very very sorry that your Daughter, become a another victim to PTSD, a truly insidious condition ! No hope of them getting back together I suppose, now he's with the SAS, I guess not ?

No o sung, he seamed perfectly OK, & she had no complaints there. He is a bumbling great oaf, who appeared unaffected, & was still as nice a bloke as you could want.

The army don't help much. They posted him to Darwin, so off they go, where she knows no one. Then they have him off on courses in NSW, or Victoria for 5 of the next 8 months.

Perhaps you know there is quite a bit of trouble with some aboriginals in Darwin, which is a worry for a young woman living so much of the time alone. Home invasions are not uncommon, & carjacking is a problem in some areas. She had survived the worry of Afghanistan, but now, even with a big dog, she was frightened for herself alone at night as well.

Even then, with only another 5 months of the Darwin posting, she was expecting some respite from worry. His decision to join the SAS, understandable with what the army is becoming, was the last straw for her. The army needs blokes like him, but she can't handle the army.

I just thank god the split happened before any kids came along to complicate things.

o sung wu,
It seems our lives parallel. I had the benefit of Duntroon but I seem to have missed all the fun. Learned all that stuff in Saigon or back here at the 'Cross' on R&R. Had the hell kicked out of me in the B of Coral-Balmoral, 3RaR then second time around then back to the 'cottages' at Yaralla. Glad I missed the homecoming though. That's how I got into the "Job"
Needed the discipline, the uniform a gun and somebody to tell me what to do with it. The force was my OT. The only females I came in contact with in the military were psych nurses in hospital and then they outranked me anyway.