Lexi,

Quite so.

Howard never really "stopped the boats". They still kept coming but were turned around and this was deliberately not reported in the media (as admitted by Downer on ABC radio after the election).

However, Indonesia protested about this at the time and when the Oceanic Viking - a private vessel - tried to offload rescued refugees back on Indonesia, they were turned away.

What chance would a Australian Naval vessel have of cruising into an Indonesian port and dumping people on the dock?

None, I would think.

Scuttling boats is an easy strategy and this is what the Navy has already warned about.

I'm guessing that this would qualify as Abbott's first electoral lie, loophole or not.

The failure of delivering an "automatic 10% reduction in electricity bills" will be his next one when he removes the evil Carbon price wrecking ball from the economy.

Clearly never, the so called tough lady has no intention of putting party first.
However the power brokers/party breakers still have time to remove her.
I think the fact doing so, says they got it wrong.
And that alone stops them.
What then for them,once they drive the party over the cliff.
By the way see and hear her speech to her women supporters?
Made me quite sick.

Changing leaders now would be like offering a lamb to the slaughter, as I doubt even Bob could save this party.

The theme in the party room would be something like, "ok, so hands up who wants to be shot", I doubt it will happen.

Besides, if Rudd does challenge, he goes against his word, and after all, more lies are the last thing this party needs.

My view is that if Rudd wants the top job, it's his, as he will simply step in after Julia does an Anna and flees.

Rache, I still say that we should suspend all aid to Indo, until THEY stop the boats from leaving.

Either way, labor are criticizing an LNP policy (turn back the boats) but at the end of the day, this is a mess CAUSED by labor in the first place.

So the new trend appears to be, break something, then blame the other side if they try to fix it.

Labor will never be forgiven for this mess THEY CREATED!

It is more of the gender war and feminist bandwagon stuff that got arrogant, selfish, careerists like Julie Gillard where they are.

She has well and truly over-worn it though. To such an extent that the tough old left feminists like Eva Cox are afraid that Julia could ruin what has been a very lucrative gig for them for decades. The gaff on feminism's faking and bluff is well and truly blown though. As well, it always was about the interests and careers of an elite of educated, middle class women.

<Feminist commentator Eva Cox said she was "wary" of Ms Gillard's latest bid to win female votes. "I think it's a fairly shallow attempt," she said. "I am much more interested in the policies she's putting out there, not the rhetoric and there's nothing new or exciting here for women."

Ms Cox took issue with Ms Gillard's use of the abortion debate, saying it was "not really a federal issue", and she was just attempting to turn the focus on to Mr Abbott.>

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/julia-gillard-fires-abortion-salvo-in-gender-war/story-fn59niix-1226662153495

so the 100000 or so baby slaughters per year under Howard is not enough for the feminist. More more they want. And Gillard is disgusting enough to cheer the sisterhood on.

Julia Gillard has really lost all sense of the plot.
I can only think that she is very desperate.

That speach to those women, probably means she lost the vote of more
men than she gained the vote of women.
Not heard any womens' comments, but my wife thinks it was stupid.
She is off to the hairdresser's today, so she is going to poll them.

What on earth did she think she was doing ?
I never thought she was stupid, but now I am wondering if I was wrong !