I'm taking bets on when Julia will step down or be stabbed in the back?
My guess is by the end of this week.

Don't be so sure. She won the previous challenge by a mile, so the hatred of Rudd, by parliamentarians, is high.

Word is that Rudd's effort at Geelong on Friday was all set up. Apparently it was in an adjoining electorate which is a safe labor seat, with bussed in supporters. Gillards mob would be aware of that.
Just to give the impression he has 'rock star' popularity.

When will Labor get their act together. It is well known that a return to Rudd would be a disaster.

Rudd is well known among parliamentarians for his real self. It would be a great mistake to make him leader again just for the purpose of saving a few seats because of electoral perceptions. Spin and US style campaigning will not save Labor. This pre-election era is election by media and polls. If people keep reading and writing that Labor will lose, will it become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

It seems some members are already packing up before any election results are in. How about getting out there and campaigning about what Labor has done that is worthwhile and stop the internal party bickering and put personal ambitions aside for the sake of the party. While I don't vote ALP I do preference them over Liberals.

If they don't get their act together, Australia will be governed by one of the most Conservative 'tea party' type manifestations of the LNP. The country will be governed ostensibly by the IPA and the mining magnates with money to throw around. Democracy will be further handed to those with position, money and power.

As much as I am critical of some of the ALP's record the alternative is much worse.

'If they don't get their act together, Australia will be governed by one of the most Conservative 'tea party' type manifestations of the LNP. '

yep Pelican and how competent and trustworthy they will be compared with the totally incompetent mob in power. Over a thousand drowned and tens of thousands of muslims with little propect of getting jobs joining our dole queue. Thanks Labour.

Labour are running out of labels for the incoming Government. Unbelievable that their are still about 28% of aussies willing to vote for Labour. Mainly unionist, public servants and academics full of self interest.

Do be careful what you wish for pelican, You might actually get it.

"How about getting out there and campaigning about what Labor has done that is worthwhile" you say, but if any of them started speaking the truth, it would be the end.

If the general population ever saw the real black heart of labor, they might even sink below the Greens. They are now reduced to those who keep their eyes & ears tight shut, to avoid learning what they desperately want to avoid knowing, so perhaps they are safe with what they have left.

I agree it would be ludicrous to go back to Rudd, the one who established the rot, I'm sure he would only use a return to try to use us to full fill his UN dreams, to our detriment of course.

However, with out Labor holding enough seats, the greens become just a noisy pressure group, of no importance to anyone.

I don't think they will bother. We stopped listening long ago. How do you minimise the damage when there is no talent or credibility to replace the present rotting carcase.