Sonofgloin, both Agronomist and Pericles both have deception agendas.

A very simple point made by Alex Jones is that why did the BBC bother interviewing him twice if he is preaching lies? In the past 20 yrs they ignored Alex Jones. Why do these two bother trying to refute what they perceive to be utter conspiracy rubbish,when most as logical people like us,just ignore BS?

The actions and attack of Agronomist, Pericles and the BBC tell us that the powers who control us, have a lot o hide.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely, and evil does prevail when a few good people do nothing.

Highly illuminating examples, sonofgloin.

>>Billiton bought BHP at a 49 cent midpoint of that two year U curve<<

Given the trivial value of the transaction, in relation to the total flow of overseas currency transactions, why would anyone bother to manipulate the dollar in this fashion? It must have cost - literally - trillions to effect such a massive change, and all for a piddling few billions. If that is the kind of trick you believe these people pull, they are a far greater danger to themselves than to us.

>>In 2008 the banks that control the Global Monetary Cabal sent the Northern Hemisphere into bankruptcy<<

Why would they do that, when the banks themselves suffered massive losses, change of ownership and nationalization? What did they achieve? Once again, if this is an example of control, it demonstrates incompetency on an unprecedented scale.

>>There you go P, two examples of total control of a monetary system<<

I notice that you were not able to explain how they achieved these amazing results. Possibly because you haven't the faintest clue as to the levers and mechanisms involved.

>>They control it well enough to have moved all production to the second and third world, while getting rid of international trade protection legislations in the first world.<<

And this is a bad thing? For whom...? And more importantly, how do you know it was "they" who made it happen, as opposed to a natural realignment of global costs?

>>As I said all first world governments sign free trade agreements. We don’t want them signed<<

How do you think a lack of free trade agreements would benefit Australia? Have you actually thought it through?

Do some homework, sonofgloin. Get the conspiracy theories out of your head, and start to look rationally at the facts, rather than get all excited about magical forces at work.

Pericles>> Given the trivial value of the transaction, in relation to the total flow of overseas currency transactions,<<

Wiki:
“The lowest ever value of the Australian dollar after it was floated was 47.75 US cents in April 2001”

Billiton signed in April 2001. Bloody amazing sport.

A billion was worth manipulating for back in 2001 and our currency was not the 7th most traded currency as it is today.
Remember how this came about Pericles, unsecured loans at piddling interest rates, bundled up and sold as junk bonds over and over again until the market flopped and their value was 20% of the face value. The banksters made so much money the American treasury printed record amounts of currency during this 7 year spread.

SOG>>They control it well enough to have moved all production to the second and third world, while getting rid of international trade protection legislations in the first world.<<
P>> And this is a bad thing? For whom...?<<

God that is a good reply P,….Perhaps the first world nations that have 50% youth unemployment would like a protected domestic economy so the kids can work and not raise a second and third generation of jobless citizens. At least they can buy cheap imported second and third world goods with their social security payments.

P>> Have you actually thought it through?<<

Do you remember the people’s banks, we had one in most states and a biggie called the Commonwealth Bank. Just as all of our state banks and our national bank were sold off over the past 40 years, all the first world people’s banks of any size were also sold off. What triggered that…direction from the World Bank and the IMF….Who voted them in?

P you carry on thinking the system is free of manipulation and I will go on knowing that it is not.

"In 2008 the banksters sent the system into bankruptcy. Why would they do that? " says Pericles. The reason Pericles,is that it is a pyramid scam and all about power. They don't care about how many banks go down so long as they are the king makers.

If the elites can create enormous amounts of derivatives and use them to steal real assets, would they care about which of their minor banking arms goes down if they can expand their power?

This is a power game like musical chairs and a few hundred of them want to take it all, alas the BRICS Nations are now ruining their dream of a New World Oder.

Do yourself a favour and see Oliver Stone's 'The Untold History of the United States' It is currently on pay TV History Channel. He talks about their 'New World Order' and the 'Military Industrial Complex'.