Bilderberg is the annual meeting of the planet's most powerful and influential people. Their first meeting was in 1954 at the Hotel Bilderberg in the Netherlands. Their official list numbers 140 people.
http://globalresearch.ca/the-true-story-and-what-they-may-be-planning-now/13808

Henry Kissenger 1992 Bilderberg Meeting ," Today Americans would be outraged if UN Troops entered Los Angeles to restore order, tomorrow, they will be greatful. This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then all people of the world would plead with world leaders to deliver them from this evil....individual rights would be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their World Govt."

These evils used today to usher us into this World Govt are, the threat of Global Warming, terrorism and the threat of nuclear war.

You will remember recently that Gen Petraeus lost his job as head of the CIA and 30 other senior officials went too. Had Mitt Romney won we'd be at war with Syria and Iran now. There seems to a lot of conflict amongst our power elites on how to achieve their World Govt. Webster Tarpley thinks that Obama will be deposed as leader and a more war like leader like General Patraeus will replace him. Petraeus was at the June 6-9 Bilderberg meeting recently. They may use Congressman's Walter Jones' impeachment proceedings against Obama or find a scandal to force his resignation. Obama's birth certificate authenticity has not been resolved.

Prof Michel Chossudovsky gives a list of attendees. http://www.globalresearch.ca/who-will-be-attending-the-bilderberg-meeting-what-will-be-discussed-behind-closed-doors/5337453

We may be better off with the devil we know.

Bilderberg-paranoia is in a class of its own.

It seems to be the paramount focus of the new-world-order-conspiracy dudes, right, Arjay?

Yet there isn't a shred of evidence that these guys are doing anything more than having a chat, outside the limelight and the ever-present judgement of the press, to say stuff that they couldn't admit to if there was a live microphone in the vicinity.

Which fact alone, to the conspiracy-dude, proves beyond reasonable doubt that they must be planning the overthrow of democracy, and the installation of a world government that will oppress us all.

Couple of questions, Arjay.

1. Why has it taken them so long? It's been almost sixty years, and they haven't even made first base. Take comfort from this fact, because if they are this incompetent in getting their act together, they are unlikely to be much of a threat to our way of life, are they?

2. If they are such a sooper-seekrit organization, how come they have a web site that tells you when and where the next meeting is going to be held?

http://www.bilderbergmeetings.org/meeting_2013.html

Wouldn't it be more effective if they were, you know, just a little more secretive in their plans? And heck... Watford? What self-respecting new-world-order cabal would hold a meeting in Watford?

http://bilderberg2013.co.uk/

But please, don't let my - clearly under-informed - position on this deter you, Arjay, from continuing to believe that one day, these people will be your masters, and you will be nothing more than a puppet-drone, doing their bidding.

But... Watford? Good grief.

Pericles>> But please, don't let my - clearly under-informed - position on this deter you, Arjay, from continuing to believe that one day, these people will be your masters, and you will be nothing more than a puppet-drone, doing their bidding.<<

P, conspiracy theorists to the left of us, conspiracy theorists to the right, what is valid and what is from cloud cuckoo land?
I base all my assertions on what I would do if I was born or gifted into the 15% of the globes population that control 85% of the worlds wealth.

I would control the global monetary system…they do.
I would control world trade…they do.
I would control governments…they do.
I would control the UN….they do.

There is no such thing as a benevolent dictator and there is no such thing as a benevolent globalist. Their core mantra is economies of scale…the individual or nation is surplus to need in a global perspective, but our humanity comes from the individual not the group.
P, if you have to ask “who” I am eluding to this conversation is over.

Yes Sonofgloin Pericles likes to cover for them. Up until 5 yrs ago they denied the existence of of the Bilderberg Group and now people like Alex Jones have forced their hand.They have even been forced to interview Alex on the BBC.http://www.infowars.com/alex-jones-storms-bbc-confronts-bilderberg-member/ Alex lost it at the end of this interview.You can be passionate without going troppo but over all, Alex was very effective.

MP Ken Clarke is on the steering committee of Bilderberg and he is breaking the ministerial code of conduct by being part of such a secretive group.Notice not one rep from Aust is there. We are still the colony.

Basically the cat is out of the bag and the elites have to continually redraw their plans.They are desperate enough to go to a nuke war with Russia/China because many realise that what they are doing is treason.

That's just chickening out, sonofgloin...

>>P, if you have to ask “who” I am eluding to this conversation is over.<<

Nice use of "eluding", though, because the identity of the "they" that you keep alluding to, completely eludes me.

But what's all this garbage anyway?

>>I would control the global monetary system…they do.<<

Oh yeah? In what way?

>>I would control world trade…they do.<<

If that is so, they don't do it very well

>>I would control governments…they do.<<

What, someone is actually controlling Julia Gillard? Doing a lousy job of it, is all I can say.

>>I would control the UN….they do.<<

No evidence of that, whatsoever. The UN is just a herd of cats.

So tell me, do you actually know who "they" are? Or are they just some imaginary bogey-man concoction that you can pretend exists, but can't actually identify. And don't try to tell me that you can't identify them because they are so sooper-seekrit that nobody actually knows, that's pure hogwash. Either they exist, and you can name them, or they don't exist, and you can't.

And please Arjay, try not to insult our intelligence with this claptrap:

>>Up until 5 yrs ago they denied the existence of of the Bilderberg Group<<

Here's an article in the mainstream press, dated 2003 - that's ten years ago - and the activities of the group were clearly already well known.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3031717.stm

But the real test would be if you could find anything, anywhere, in the Bilderberg discussions that even hinted at a "new world order". And in case you hadn't realized, there are a number of meeting minutes that have been released into the wild by Wikileaks, also cross-referenced on Wikipedia, none of which gives the slightest support to your wild-assed theories.

http://mirror.wikileaks.info/wiki/leak/bilderberg-meetings-report-1963.pdf

Seriously, if that's how the cabal of international supremacists operate, we have absolutely nothing to fear.

Arjay "Up until 5 yrs ago they denied the existence of of the Bilderberg Group and now people like Alex Jones have forced their hand."

Seriously Arjay, if you ever want anyone with a grain of sense to take any of your conspiracy theories seriously, it would be a good idea not to get your facts from Alex Jones.

Here http://www.nytimes.com/1992/05/27/world/philip-c-habib-a-leading-us-diplomat-dies-at-72.html is an obituary of a US diplomat published in 1992 that mentions him speaking at a Bilderberg Conference along with Henry Kissinger in 1988. I make 1992 to be more than 20 years ago.

Agronomist it is now conspiracy fact. How do you explain 3 buildings on 911 collapsing at near free fall speeds meaning that they had to be controlled demolition and not a gravitational collapse due to fires or plane impacts.http://www.ae911truth.org/

You obiviously either refuse to look at the evidence or have other agendas. Ditto for Pericles.

We have the GFC and theft of our savings with no one being charged, money printing, use of derivatives to bankrupt countries illegal wars, Obama stripping away basic human rights, legalising assassinations, illegally tapping into our communications and now evidence of secret meetings.

Is the truth just to horrible to contemplate?

Surely you are getting tired of grinding that same old organ, Arjay, with the same old monkey on your shoulder...

>>How do you explain 3 buildings on 911 collapsing at near free fall speeds...<<

How does Bilderberg fit into this scenario?

At which conference did they sit down and decide that they should ask the CIA (or whoever) to mobilize a team of people to lay hundreds of explosive devices in an occupied building without being detected, and then arrange for those devices to be detonated on the same day as a couple of other buildings had (or had not) been hit by airliners flown by (more CIA?) zealots, to give the US an excuse to invade Afghanistan (or wherever), simply in order to make a property owner super-rich from the insurance money. Or not.

So many questions. So few answers... from you, that is.

Arjay, the three WTC buildings did not free-fall. I am happy to link to the engineering research papers that discuss this, as I have done in the past, but this entry level discussion should help you http://www.debunking911.com/freefall.htm

If the towers were in free fall, they should have been falling as fast as the debris. They didn’t, not even close.

But what does the not at all secret Bilderberg Meetings have to do with this? Other than crank magnetism.

Have a look at this one Arjay, he fingers the Bilderbergs. His first bit about aliens is interesting, I know they are out there, but didn't think they were residing here...ninety or not he has credibility and a brilliant career without any other paranoia’s excepting aliens and OWG.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z4n_yF9E28

>>P, if you have to ask “who” I am eluding to this conversation is over.<<
Pericles>> That's just chickening out, sonofgloin...<<

Yeah, sorry P it came across as an ultimatum, but the sentiment was more along the lines of one of Poirot’s “sheesh’s”.

P>> >>I would control the global monetary system…they do.<<

Oh yeah? In what way?<<

Rather than getting into what organizations form the global monetary cabal, I will describe two of their works:

A year before Billiton stole BHP the Aussie dollar was 65 cents, a year after Billiton stole BHP the Aussie dollar was 65 cents. Billiton bought BHP at a 49 cent midpoint of that two year U curve. Extremely fortuitous to have purchased at the lowest point of the cycle and amazingly we have not seen a 49 cent dollar since.

In 2008 the banks that control the Global Monetary Cabal sent the Northern Hemisphere into bankruptcy and then cajoled the free world governments into bailing them out with what was left of the citizen’s money.

There you go P, two examples of total control of a monetary system

P>>. >>I would control world trade…they do.<<

If that is so, they don't do it well<<

They control it well enough to have moved all production to the second and third world, while getting rid of international trade protection legislations in the first world.

>>I would control governments…they do.<<

What, someone is actually controlling Julia Gillard? Doing a lousy job of it, is all I can say.<<

Gillard and Abbott can talk about misogyny and immigration till the cows come home, they don’t control the banks and they don’t control the nation’s future. As I said all first world governments sign free trade agreements. We don’t want them signed, we want jobs to stay in Australia…but they get signed…by both sides of the house.

P>> So tell me, do you actually know who "they" are? Or are they just some imaginary bogey-man concoction that you can pretend exists<<

God you are harsh P, but harsh does not cover a corpus callosum that is on the fritz.

Agronomist>> If the towers were in free fall, they should have been falling as fast as the debris. They didn’t, not even close.<<

Ag, debris schmee, they were in free fall.

If the buildings are in free fall they do not encounter resistance.
If the building does not encounter resistance it falls into its own footprint.
Why did the two towers encounter no resistance? They should have.
Pre hot charge demolition we had never seen a multi storey building pancake, except when the earth shook.
Fire couldn’t do it and old time demolition started from the top and worked down.

Since hot charge demolition we have only seen 2 structures pancake into their own footprint without hot charges and one demolished in an hour, in the same place, on the same day.

Have a peek at Larry Silverstein, the WTC leaseholder who with partner, our own Frank Lowie cleaned up on the insurance of these coming to their use by date buildings. Larry tells a fireman to freefall a building into its own footprint, and they do it in an hour….Why do the demolition guys take weeks. Firemen could demolish four or five a day at that rate. I hours notice, it pancakes.

Old Larry must have took too much viagra that morning and has not said a sylable about it since.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jPzAakHPpk

Sonofgloin, both Agronomist and Pericles both have deception agendas.

A very simple point made by Alex Jones is that why did the BBC bother interviewing him twice if he is preaching lies? In the past 20 yrs they ignored Alex Jones. Why do these two bother trying to refute what they perceive to be utter conspiracy rubbish,when most as logical people like us,just ignore BS?

The actions and attack of Agronomist, Pericles and the BBC tell us that the powers who control us, have a lot o hide.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely, and evil does prevail when a few good people do nothing.

Highly illuminating examples, sonofgloin.

>>Billiton bought BHP at a 49 cent midpoint of that two year U curve<<

Given the trivial value of the transaction, in relation to the total flow of overseas currency transactions, why would anyone bother to manipulate the dollar in this fashion? It must have cost - literally - trillions to effect such a massive change, and all for a piddling few billions. If that is the kind of trick you believe these people pull, they are a far greater danger to themselves than to us.

>>In 2008 the banks that control the Global Monetary Cabal sent the Northern Hemisphere into bankruptcy<<

Why would they do that, when the banks themselves suffered massive losses, change of ownership and nationalization? What did they achieve? Once again, if this is an example of control, it demonstrates incompetency on an unprecedented scale.

>>There you go P, two examples of total control of a monetary system<<

I notice that you were not able to explain how they achieved these amazing results. Possibly because you haven't the faintest clue as to the levers and mechanisms involved.

>>They control it well enough to have moved all production to the second and third world, while getting rid of international trade protection legislations in the first world.<<

And this is a bad thing? For whom...? And more importantly, how do you know it was "they" who made it happen, as opposed to a natural realignment of global costs?

>>As I said all first world governments sign free trade agreements. We don’t want them signed<<

How do you think a lack of free trade agreements would benefit Australia? Have you actually thought it through?

Do some homework, sonofgloin. Get the conspiracy theories out of your head, and start to look rationally at the facts, rather than get all excited about magical forces at work.

Pericles>> Given the trivial value of the transaction, in relation to the total flow of overseas currency transactions,<<

Wiki:
“The lowest ever value of the Australian dollar after it was floated was 47.75 US cents in April 2001”

Billiton signed in April 2001. Bloody amazing sport.

A billion was worth manipulating for back in 2001 and our currency was not the 7th most traded currency as it is today.
Remember how this came about Pericles, unsecured loans at piddling interest rates, bundled up and sold as junk bonds over and over again until the market flopped and their value was 20% of the face value. The banksters made so much money the American treasury printed record amounts of currency during this 7 year spread.

SOG>>They control it well enough to have moved all production to the second and third world, while getting rid of international trade protection legislations in the first world.<<
P>> And this is a bad thing? For whom...?<<

God that is a good reply P,….Perhaps the first world nations that have 50% youth unemployment would like a protected domestic economy so the kids can work and not raise a second and third generation of jobless citizens. At least they can buy cheap imported second and third world goods with their social security payments.

P>> Have you actually thought it through?<<

Do you remember the people’s banks, we had one in most states and a biggie called the Commonwealth Bank. Just as all of our state banks and our national bank were sold off over the past 40 years, all the first world people’s banks of any size were also sold off. What triggered that…direction from the World Bank and the IMF….Who voted them in?

P you carry on thinking the system is free of manipulation and I will go on knowing that it is not.

"In 2008 the banksters sent the system into bankruptcy. Why would they do that? " says Pericles. The reason Pericles,is that it is a pyramid scam and all about power. They don't care about how many banks go down so long as they are the king makers.

If the elites can create enormous amounts of derivatives and use them to steal real assets, would they care about which of their minor banking arms goes down if they can expand their power?

This is a power game like musical chairs and a few hundred of them want to take it all, alas the BRICS Nations are now ruining their dream of a New World Oder.

Do yourself a favour and see Oliver Stone's 'The Untold History of the United States' It is currently on pay TV History Channel. He talks about their 'New World Order' and the 'Military Industrial Complex'.