because of feminism.
Antiseptic,
I have looked at this situation all my time on this godforsaken planet & I'm blaming poofterism rather than feminism. Although the feminists have disrupted normal life to a great extent it is the fags who are the real cause. They have infiltrated all positions of power & now they're all but invincible. In Australia we have had one as the high Court Judge, one as a Premier with another few pretty questionable, we have them in Police, in the armed forces in fact they are everywhere hence things are stuffed everywhere..
Is it any wonder normal people go around the bend & lose all hope. And now the asexuals are on the rise gradually overtaking the religious nuts.

pelican,

You can see "this thread is reverting to type", you say? What, because men are not sucked in and grateful for superfical *bleep*? A site that patronises and spins the unfortunate victim right back to where he started from, only even more disillusioned if that is possible?

You drew a parallel with breast screening. Breast cancer is an excellent example but for a different reason. It is so heavily over-funded by government and by donation that it is an embarrassment. It is so politically correct that batsmen took to wearing the pink logos to spin a more positive image for cricket, especially after allegations of fixed games and betting on matches. Yet so much of it is a feel good war, and that could be seen very easily from the adoration of a 'courageous' over-wealthy, privileged actress who had her boobs done and re-stuffed.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/28/magazine/our-feel-good-war-on-breast-cancer.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

As I posted earlier and drew the usual spiteful and misleading comment from one the site's leading man haters, men are not so stupid as to not know when they are hurting and nor are they so insensitive and bovine that they refuse to help themselves. The limiting factor is that many who need professional support cannot access it because of cost.

I can add to that the well proved (peer reviewed research is available and the HIC has heaps of stats) fact that medical professionals including nurses, are far less disposed to ordering medical tests and screening for male patients and to treating their health complaints seriously. In fact males of all ages get only a fraction of the time in consultations that women do and that is not because they are rushing to get out. Obviously it isn't just 'men' who have a 'culture problem'.

to be continued..

..continued,

I also posted peer-reviewed research that questionned the very basis of the catchy titled 'Man Therapy',

<<To begin to understand suicide in men we need to acknowledge the psychobiological and cultural realities and demands on men’s lives, as described by Ashfield (2010).

The practice of blaming men for ‘holding in their emotions’ and ‘not seeking help’, and calls for changes to the traditional male role, sounds plausible but is, at best, lazy and simplistic. It is a view that conveniently avoids dealing with the more complex issues of male suicide, and is one that is ignorant of biology, and offensively dismissive of the lived reality of most men’s lives – what society expects of them, and what they must try to be to meet these expectations.

Let us act on what we know with compassion, respect and hope and continue to build the knowledge base to address the huge gender disparity in suicide.>

from 'Insights into Men's Suicide'
Australian Psychological Society Aug 2012>

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=5833&page=6

So what about some replies to that? It is not lost on men and the women who care about them that the Gillard government, the experts on the 'misogyny' of a man looking at a watch and how to dole out million of foreign aid to market Julia Gillard abroad, don't give a fig about Australia leading the world in male suicide.

September 2013 will see the electorate put out the rubbish in Canberra and it is not before time. It will be good to put the skids under self-serving The Hon Tanya Plibersek MP, Minister for Health, for a start.

OTB
I was not referring to the comments about Man Therapy, many of which I agree with or have acknowledged I don't know the answer. I was referring to the inevitable nasty comments about women that seem to come out from a few regulars regardless of the subject matter.

I wonder how much study has been done with men and in particular talking to men who have had suicidal thoughts. Or with their families after these tragic events to ascertain some of the issues that create feelings of suicide. One obviously has to distinguish between clinical depression and other types in this discussion.

My own experience with suicide is that the person I knew did not come across as depressed and in fact was almost always jolly. It was very sad and surprising event for all concerned.

We do not need to discuss depression or the causes of suicide. The peer reviewed research is there and the numbers. Nothing new, some good practical work done but always crippled by very limited funding and very obvious indifference, even obstruction, of the Gillard crew, think Tanya Plibersek, Nicola Roxon before her, and others.

The biggest, most practical and enduring contribution anyone can make is to Put the Rubbish Out in Canberra on 14 September 2013.