Poirot,
I think it should be noted that American murders are mostly personal vandettas; rather than culturally religious and non discriminate against a body of people they despise.

Father Joe, and what is the point? How do murders that are mostly personal vendettas rate against the culturally religious murders. Religions throughout the ages have brought out the extremes in devotes. Islam as crude as it can be, is no different from Christianity. How often have so many perished at the hands of Christians, who have been culturally religious and non discriminate against a body of people they despise. Until all religions are obliterated from the planet we are going to be subjected to their intolerant murderous insanity.

Poirot, "it's nothing compared to the US, which can boast about 2 1/2 times that number 'in a month' - just from gunfire alone"

That is very misleading.

The leading cause of gun deaths in the US is male suicide,

"The study conducted by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, WISQARS, revealed that more than 19,000 of the 31,000 deaths from guns in the United States in 2010 were suicides.

There has been a jump in suicides among middle-aged Americans by 28 percent from 1999 to 2010, the study showed."

BTW, In Australia, which is a world leader for male suicide, gun control made no difference to overall suicide numbers, hanging was always by far and above the most favoured method, and more hanged themselves. The sleeper in Australia is the number of men who suicide through 'lone driver' car accidents. Although the numbers are thought to be significant, there is no study done and no inclusion in overall suicide statistcs

Wow...onthebeach, that is indeed startling news.

Thanks for that info.

It is easy to throw the odd red herring around, to try to take the threads intent away.
But in just mentioning *home grown terrorism*, how many think of other than some Muslims or those with Muslim roots?
Those who have been here for a while, know I was once a committed Christian, full on one.
And it sinks deep in to us who can say that.
Not the God Myth, but the wiseness behind the Bibles content, along very often, with yes and no statements on any question.
Apart from Catholic Church, I no longer see hope or even the intent, from that Church to change/be come true followers of their God.
I think little harm is done by Christians, todays Christians, in comparison with some others.
If man was to implement, by invention, one God, sacrifices would need to be made, by them all.
And in time by our free will or forced on Humanity, it seems the only likely way, we can live in peace, and some thing we will do, most liky forced but over all productive..
Poirot, 1.000 dead, one month, to set up in defense of that number, children and women, old and infirm, is to put on display, some thing awful!
Rather than confront those, and every murder it seems you are unconcerned about the murders.

Belly,

Your Reuters article won't load on my PC at the moment, so I can't read it...but if it refers to the ongoing violence in Iraq, what do you want me to say?

Bush and his cronies decided it was time to bomb the daylights out of the country. That was after inflicting years of misery, death and disease through sanctions - once they'd finished playing tiddlywinks with their one time "friend", Saddam.

That was to destabilise whatever order there was and leave a huge power vacuum...that's a huge "power vacuum".

Those of us who opposed the invasion always knew that this would cause major long-term problems for Iraqis.

Iraq was one of the most developed countries in the Middle-East before "Shock and Awe", the most advanced in medical infrastructure and in higher learning.

Oh yeah, Belly, do you think I'm unconcerned with the ongoing carnage? It's exactly what I and many others predicted would happen.

Who brought the present situation about?

Hint - it wasn't Muslims.