Banjo - I am not a member of the Libs but am critical of some of their policies. At this stage I chose not to speak of those issues because I think it more important that we get rid of the current incompedents. The reality is that if we get rid of the current mob, it will be the Libs that take over. I expect them to do a far better job on the financial side and stop the boats.

You have every right to your views however I believe that being an a member or supporter of an organization whose direction is fundamentally flawed is to all intents and purposes the same as encouraging the flawed policy. Unfortunately the prevailing school of thought, at least with major parties, is to compel representatives to toe the party line. I choose to take a different tack by not supporting any entity which disallows conscience voting on each and every issue. Certainly we need to get rid of the ALP dumbclucks, but are the LNP equivalents really any better, recent experience in Queensland indicates not. Can the RAbbott stop the boats using fundamentally broken logic, obviously time will tell but is there any reason to have confidence in his hairbrained schemes ?? If the example of wanting to chuck billions at the moribund motor industry is any example, there is more reason to doubt his reasoning than to have confidence in it.

Prax,
I feel sorry for you as you have a dilemma.

Ok so your primary vote goes to Palmers candidate, now where does your preferences go? You reckon Labor are hopeless and have no faith in the Libs so what do you do? If you dont fill in every square your vote will be invalid and your support for Palmer will be negated. Do you toss a coin?

I too have had that dilemma, but this time I will be putting the Libs next because I trust they will be an improvement and I have history on my side. The Libs did stop the boats before and when they left office previously they left $20 billion in the bank. Labor are going out with a $300 billion debt and thousands of illegals coming in.

One does not have to be too bright to figure out our best bet.

Belly - Quote "PHILIP S RE READ YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO THIS THREAD even you should see the birth of my view." AGAIN you fail to answer the question, YOU made the statement I again ask you to point out which part infers what you say it infers?

Quote "And please!ignore me as I wish to you." If that is the case why do you keep coming in with childish sarcastic remarks?

Remember your words "I come here for intellectual stimulation, not the very opposite." You still fail to be doing what you say you are here to do.

Banjo

I don't doubt your assertion that the LNP mob are better money managers than the utterly inept ALP (it wouldn't be difficult would it ??), but that despicably evil business of the RAbbott & One Nation put the party in my bad books. As far back as I can recall, I've filled in every single number on ballot papers, mainly because its a matter of who I want LEAST. Easiest way to achieve that is to start with the highest number and work backwards. Exactly what candidates will get the best numbers will depend on how preferences are distributed however I'll be aiming to land RAbbott & Co with the minimum possible. Obviously its too early to know exactly how the rats & mice will stack up but ideally I'd like Palmer first, then a bunch of also-rans which could include DLP / KAP / CDP / etc, main criteria being the minimum possible leakage to the major parties and minimal number of failed lawyers (too much experience in doubletalk to be trustworthy) / failed priests (theological conflict)

Prax are you still at school?
I need make no effort to insult you.
Your posts do it better than I ever could.
Banjo and I, while separate in politics are from the same mold, middle Australia.
As for your crippling assertion My pro ALP? I AM A MEMBER
And my party,s harshest critic.
Do you want to brand *EVERY NON LIBERAL*
I fail to hide my concern, while the upper page here brings true thoughtful posters, an influx of those who seem unable to truly hold considered views has its hands around our throat.
No balanced understanding poster, not one, would brand me other than anti Muslim, and totally against the current state of the ALP, and the mindless and gutless acts of those supporting Dillard.
Do me a last favor, lets not talk, it hurts haveing to turn my brain off to get to your level.
Australian imprisoned in Saudi Arabia, for terrorism.
Before the gulable left uses him to not talk about the real issue, I will highlight he could claim insanity.
Committing such an act in the birth place of current Muslim radicalism!

Belly

On reading the latest post from Philip S, its clear that I'm not the only one who often has trouble comprehending what you are on about. Is the Australian dialect of english not your normal language ?? For what its worth, I have a number of close friends from what, for want of a better description, I'll label 'funny' countries, consequently I've had to unravel a number of 'weird' (to native speakers of Australian english) grammatical constructs. That said, your sentence construction is totally unlike anything I've ever encountered (most mediterranean & latin languages, some germanic, the odd bit of slavic, stuff-all asian). Personally I'd prefer you to post stuff in your native language and let me use Babelfish or whatever to translate, mind you others mileage might vary