Poirot>> I asked if you could provide a credible source to confirm that. You haven't provided that.<<

P, I had responded with:
>> data collected by the Australian Bureau of Statistics shows that Lebanese make up the fifth largest ethnic group in Australian prisons after Australians<<
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/features/migrant-groups-going-gang-busters/story-e6frg6z6-1226017998892<<

As Bazz intimated the numbers are cloaked in politically correct fog, but the link from The Australian states:
“data collected by the Australian Bureau of Statistics shows that Lebanese make up the fifth largest ethnic group in Australian prisons after Australians.”

P anyone who has the ability to discern night from day realizes that Middle Easterners are over represented in the crime stats and ergo the prison system. Every day I wake to news of an overnight shooting, and the description of the assailants is invariably Middle Eastern. If no description is given then the suburb given has a mosque in it or near it.

Middle Easterners have joined the outlaw bike clubs in numbers, the drug trade is almost exclusively theirs. Drive by shootings is almost exclusively theirs. Every major capital city has a dedicated Middle East crime squad.

Poirot you are no dill, but you seem to have a touch of the “J Edgar Hoovers” about you when it comes to identifying the obvious over representation of Semitic people in criminal endeavours.

sonofgloin,

And your posts have an over-representation of assumption and statement without material to back it up.

It might seem like nit-picking, however, your initial post was blown out of the water once it was examined for "integrity".

You then go on to say that 20% of Australian prison internees are Muslim.

You don't provide evidence to back it up. Where did you get that figure?

Instead you give me a mild rebuke because I don't take your 20% statement on board without asking questions as to where it came from. Then you give me something on Lebanese prisoners that fails to address the 20% inquiry.

You say that data on the matter is "cloaked in a politically correct fog...". That may be true, but it's not the point I'm making. I'm asking you where you got the 20% information? If it's something you merely heard that was doing the rounds or just something you surmise, then you should say so.

I realise that I'm being pedantic here, but these threads appear to be full of innuendo and statements pulled out of the air - or from biased sites, and they are taken on board as accurate simply because they appeal to the dominant mindset on these threads.

It is clear that whilst 20% is one fifth, the statement "that Lebanese make up the fifth largest ethnic group in Australian prisons..." doesn't mean 20% regardless of the problems "to try to prove or disprove the public perception that Lebanese Australians were disproportionately involved in crime."

But, sonofgloin, you forget to include the end of the cited sentance, "...with 226 Lebanese prisoners last year accounting for 0.75 per cent of all detainees held for serious crimes."

Frankly, I find the figure of three quarters of one percent surprisingly low given the impression generated by the media... and commenters.

Unless someone stuffed-up somewhere?

Dear sonofgloin,

I had written about your original post;

“Forgive me but I'm not buying it at all. You have had constant form with this sort of stuff and any faux contrition now is hardly going to stop you poison peddling in the future is it?”

You replied;

“Cs, I accept this and as I said revile at my own peddling of rubbish as fact regarding the theme of the thread. Can’t say more than that.”

You even had Wmtrevor waving your flag “I'm prepared to throw the bouquet for "...I stuffed up", sonofgloin.”

But then you straight away posted a scurrilous and totally unsubstantiated claim that Middle-easterners make up 20% of the prison population.

There are some quite outrageous and unrepentant poison peddlers who haunt this forum, Hasbeen and PhilipS are prime examples. But at least they accept who they are and don't try and apologise for the bile they offer up. The rest of us in turn recognise them and their ilk as being afflicted with hatreds and prejudices that blind them to inconvenient facts and for whom checking the veracity of what they post is the last thing on their minds.

I am quite willing to accept that as yet you still feel some discomfort about being caught out so there are some vestiges of decency left. These will inevitably fade as you plunge into the cesspits of fear and intolerance, where the smallest transgression by a Middle Easterner, where ever in the world it occurs, will serve to have you turn away from fellow Australians purely based on their race or religion.

If you truly don't want to walk that path then please examine what motivates you to post such nonsense after unquestioningly accepting it as the truth.

You see it isn't a matter of just trying to get the facts straight, you need to recognise what drives your behaviour and correct it. Treat the disease, not the symptoms.

If that is not your wish then make the leap complete. Faux contrition is inane.

Just wanted to add, regarding your focus on Lebanese incarcerations, sonofgloin, that you appear to be overlooking a pertinent factor in associating them exclusively with Islam.

Muslims make up just over half of the Lebanese population. Christians are the other sizable demographic in that country, plus other religions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Lebanon

Even more reason to question your claim.

Rehctub by your own remarks you're are a racist. Intolerant to other nationalities, not prepared to give Muslims a fair go in this racist country that always denies been a racist country. Many of you who are anti Labour are by association, racist! Liberal and all their tribes are racist to the hilt. Why ever do they wish to stop the poor refugees coming here for a better life -simply because they're racist. We have so much room and food, so why shouldn't they come! We whites invaded Australia in the first place, so why shouldn't other races and nationalities come here if the want, provided they are peaceful.

jay of Melbourne you claim many in jail are from the middle east, what absolute rot! Csteel has asked you for proof and of course you cant provide any proof of what you say. At least with the Labour Party they give everyone a go despite the color of there skin or there religion or anything else. And jay of Melbourne and rehctub I bet you both have your hands out to collect money from the Labour government, even though you hate them so much. Amazing isn't it really. Racism is all about us in this very large country where we could take many many millions of more people from all parts of the world, specially from Africa and parts of the Middle East where many people go hungary and we have we have plenty of room too! We are a racist, selfish, narrow minded, hateful country. Under a Labour government this will change over the years to come,OK!