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Phillip S,
Things don't go quickly go viral unless there's big money behind them, even in this day and age it takes years for trends and these funny little tropes to become widespread. Look at Lolcats and those amusing captioned pictures that clog up all the kid's newsfeeds on facebook, they were originally an in joke on 4chan years ago, then they slowly became a "thing" in the wider web, now they're ubiquitous.
When something goes viral in three days like Kony 2012, the Indian student assaults or the Arab Spring and the colour revolutions it's because someone is paying to spread the tropes and the information to sympathetic people who then spread it around to all their contacts, it's paid political propaganda.
Rumours and urban myths on the other hand tend to bubble slowly away on a more or less permanent basis, like the ones about governments appeasing Muslims, councils cancelling christmas decorations or nativity plays and so on.
The other point that has to be made is that the internet and the alternative media are almost entirely "right wing" spaces, there have been some moderately successful counter efforts from the establishment like Salon.com and Slate but they're not as popular as Infowars or Worldnet daily.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Friday, 3 May 2013 12:25:51 PM
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Dear sonofgolin,

Sorry mate but that was just pure poison peddling.

You claim; “I am not into demonizing any group by relaying half facts or outright lies.”

That is exactly what you are into my friend or else you would not have included “circumcision of little girls” “hand chopping” and “decapitation or stoning“.

Never let a fact get in the way of a decent demonising huh?

Then comes the attempt to sanitise “I can only respond by stating that if I have reacted with haste and without due care, I apologize guys.”

Forgive me but I'm not buying it at all. You have had constant form with this sort of stuff and any faux contrition now is hardly going to stop you poison peddling in the future is it?

To me what was is the most egregious thing here is you not owning up to who you really are. You have moved to the dark side and as that is where your convictions have fled to just own up to them. Be proud! Don't try and insinuate you are part of reasonable and rational society because you are not since thoughtlessly posting what you did, without any fact checking, by definition excludes you from it.
Posted by csteele, Friday, 3 May 2013 12:32:09 PM
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why do all the muslim appeasers accuse any critics of 'demonising' amongst other claims?

Every time a muslim cleric rants and raves against Western civilisation, isn't that 'demonising'? Why do you never take that on?

Double standards. It's time you woke up to the reality.
Posted by Austin Powerless, Friday, 3 May 2013 2:36:28 PM
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csteele>> That is exactly what you are into my friend or else you would not have included “circumcision of little girls” “hand chopping” and “decapitation or stoning“. <<

As I said csteele, I accepted the modesty/sanitary issue without too much quandary because the circumcision, the hand chopping, the decapitations and stoning are true and are current somewhere in the muslim world.

Wm Trevor posted a link that expanded the facts on the nursing staff, this from it:

>>“The BNP is factually correct in highlighting the guidance’s proposed alternative of disposable sleeves for NHS staff on religious grounds, which is mentioned in the policy document.

The party is also right when it points out that staff can now opt for long sleeves. But the guidance states that this only applies when they are “not engaged in patient care”. The BNP fails to make this clear – that long sleeves are allowed when not directly dealing with patients.<<

Cs, I accept this and as I said revile at my own peddling of rubbish as fact regarding the theme of the thread. Can’t say more than that.
TBC
Posted by sonofgloin, Friday, 3 May 2013 2:49:12 PM
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csteele>>Then comes the attempt to sanitise “I can only respond by stating that if I have reacted with haste and without due care, I apologize guys.”<<

Give me a break csteele, one wants their interlocutor to concede and apologize if they are wrong…I wish more posters did it on OLO. There is no reverse kudos psychological snare in my statement

>> Forgive me but I'm not buying it at all. You have had constant form with this sort of stuff and any faux contrition now is hardly going to stop you poison peddling in the future is it?<<

Will it stop me from stating facts, or renounce facts if I stuff it up, no, truth is paramount.

>>To me what was is the most egregious thing here is you not owning up to who you really are. You have moved to the dark side and as that is where your convictions have fled to just own up to them. <<

If we are going to get into character assassinations I have one thing to say to you csteele…you have the god given right so go for it….I stuffed up.
Posted by sonofgloin, Friday, 3 May 2013 2:49:16 PM
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sonofgloin,

The thing that puzzles me is "why" would you think that British hospitals would sanction a situation where certain of its medical staff were able to dispense with something as basic as hand washing.

For me the flag went up right there.

That's what prompted me to investigate the source.

It's pretty basic stuff.

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AP,

The initial article (and by definition, sonofgloin's haste to post it and embellish it with accompanying suppositions) was out and out demonising.

The "they don't have to wash their hands" had no actual basis whatsoever - and it was ludicrous to suppose that it did.

That's reality.
Posted by Poirot, Friday, 3 May 2013 3:12:25 PM
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