Poirot - This link provided is it from the same Government that
1) Budgeted for 450 welfare invaders per month, but is in fact now over 2,000 per month
2) Budgeted 2 billion plus for the mining tax and received ZERO.
3) The ones who are hiding the real cost of supporting welfare invaders by having the charities look after them (at taxpayer expense)

That is to name 3 but there are a lot more instances that say whatever comes out of the mouth of this Government and its Public servants is often proved WRONG with the passage of time.

misanthrope, now there's a laugh, the most horrific crimes (terrorism) are mostly caused by Muslims, and they don't consume alcohole.

Care to explain that one!

Now if objecting to treating our women like slaves, or teaching our young how to hate westerners, or worshiping a faith that harbors violence and hatred against all who oppose the Muslim way is in any way racist, then I am guilty as charged as it has long been my belief that they can do what ever they wish back home, but this is Australia and we don't accept that type of hatred and domination of women folk here.

The door is always open, so they can come in and enjoy our peaceful way of life, OR LEAVE.

Poirot,
I have a relative who is a prison officer.
He tells me that the largest gangs in the prison are moslem gangs, the
next are the Asian gangs and the Australian gangs are third.
He said the Australian ones are the smallest because the crimes they
commit get shorter sentences than the others who are in for firearm
and drug offenses.

Seems quite logical to me, but for PC reasons they probably don't keep statistics.

Bazz,

I was merely asking sonofgloin to back up his assertion that 20% of prison internees in Australia were Muslim.

So far he's added the fact that 26% of internees are Aboriginal...which equates to 46% of Australian prison internees being either Aboriginal or Muslim.

I know it's easy to spout stuff that a mate or relly says, or from facebook or dodgy rightwing sites, but it doesn't necessarily make them true....especially on subjects where people are eager to confirm their already existing bias.

It's all very well to say statistics are hard to come by, which may well be true.

But sonofgloin came up with a statistic of 20% - I'm asking him to give us a credible reference to that figure.

Poirot,
The only way to get any idea of who's in jail is to get look at the annual reports of state justice departments, last time I did that it appeared that foreign born non Whites made up about 10% of the total prison population. The catch is that putting people under the heading "Australian" and "New Zealander" by place of birth aren't accurate descriptive terms, logically if you carried through the ethnic breakdown of foreign born prisoners to second and third generations you'd be looking at 20% of prisoners being non White. Add to that a more or less static 25% of Indigenous prisoners and you get a slight majority of Whites in custody.
I know this isn't the way things really work, it doesn't take into account things like the types of offending among non White groups and the fact that habitual criminals are more likely to receive jail time.
Discussing race and crime is dodgy, most people shy away from it because the amount of information available is extremely limited, I view the fact that ethnic crime figures are kept secret as a form of insurance policy for the governments since if an opposition group did come out expressing concerns about particualar groups there's no way they can speak with any confidence or claim any scientific basis for their remarks. Australia is not a democratic country,
the major parties and their satellites have a view that the illusion of social cohesion is best achieved by restricting the flow of information to their enemies, the Australian public,it would make no sense for the intellectual and economic elites to release any ethnic crime figures, they'd be giving away one of their most potent tools for maintaining control.

Dear SOG,

The following may help explain "them" and "us.":

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/blogs/the-religious-write/muslims-and-misinformation-20110403-1ctdw.html

And:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/features/our-high-profile-muslim-minority/story-e6frg6z6-1226007821201