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Should I, Would you?

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WmTrevor

Interesting points you have raised.

I keep going back to the simple explanation that there is a higher proportion of selfish uncaring people about.

That and simple jealousy and spite where lack of care with other people's property is concerned.

To take an example from elsewhere, tenants in residential housing are known to be much harder on rental properties than previously. Incredible as it seems, such tenants believe that landlords are wealthy and that 'unfair wealth' excuses, even invites, carelessness with the expensive asset they occupy.

There are some nasty changes taking place in Australian culture. it is not so long ago that vandalism was so reviled that even to joke about it was to risk certain censure.
Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 22 April 2013 1:10:57 PM
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Trev I was tempted to agree until I thought if people could see each other's rage more often it would lead to more people leaving their cars to sort it out. I have seen psychos do that half a dozen times, and you even get people following another driver home and violent confrontations. Or maybe they'd be happy that they got their message across by pulling faces and punching their hand and wouldn't feel the need to follow them home after that. Who knows.

There's actions and motives.

It seems people are really confident to define the motives of the people's actions that annoy them without any real evidence. So an act of negligence somehow turns into an act of aggression in their mind, and they justify to themselves that an aggressive retaliation, however disproportional, is justifiable. They turn an impersonal happenstance to a direct and unambiguous slight.

I do hate how I cant see through cars when I'm trying to turn left and they move up next to me so I cant see to my right because their windows are too dark. 4WDs make that hard also.

' I am not tolerant of lackadaisical incompetence'

I would say that's un-Australian! Sheel be right mate!

' people are being trained to follow a process rather than engage any of their own thinking in doing a good job and the process is deliberately limited in complexity to ensure nobody can't do it, so it leads to bad outcomes.'

This is my frustration also. It also happens in sport. They even talk about it in sport. 'Bowling in the right areas', 'executing our skills' and strict adherence to the game plan etc. Nobody plays what's in front of them anymore.

Computer says No. That's the source of the problem. That's why people are disengaged from their surroundings, and stop at the end of escalators to have a conversation.
Posted by Houellebecq, Monday, 22 April 2013 1:39:26 PM
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Prior to considering reporting the matter to police, one needs to consider whether the damage was caused wilfully.

If so, police may conduct an investigation to consider laying charges of malicious damage/wilful damage/whatever the jurisdiction has for intentional damage to property.

If not, it would be a civil matter where the plaintiff would take the defendant to a civil court to recover the costs of repairs.

Without knowing the individual involved, it could reasonably be assumed the damaged was accidental, if not careless, hence the civil court option.

As to answering the question, it really depends on your view of civil society. And your strength of conviction in that society.

Personally, choosing to ignore the law reduces each individual to no more than those that breach it. One foot in the mud still leads to dirty floors when withdrawn...
Posted by Reason, Monday, 22 April 2013 1:50:05 PM
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"4WDs make that hard also"

We have a new Toyota 86 parked in the driveway. Anything higher than that is a menace I agree. Ban buses, that goes without saying.
Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 22 April 2013 1:53:11 PM
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G'day HASBEEN...

I could only imagine it'd break my heart too. I've never owned a vintage or collectors car as such, so to have it damaged in circumstances as you've described would make you want to give up, I'd imagine ?

Like most I've suffered similar 'car park' damage, mainly door dents by unreasonable people not exercising care when opening their doors.
What can be done about it ? Nothing really, unless you can identify the culprit's particulars. Serious damage, your only legal remedy is seek police assistance. Will that work, probably not. Most GD coppers are inherently lazy, when it comes to furnishing paperwork.

I'll not attempt to defend them other than to say, A L L police work, involves mammoth amounts of paperwork ! So it's little wonder the average coppers will try their hardest to reduce the load. Blame Command, DPP, and other statistical gathering organisations that love to be able to quote facts and figures. It all mounts up, believe me.

Again, I'm sorry HASBEEN for what's happened. When similar things have happened to me, there's a momentary flash and image of a 'tyre iron' or a 'jack handle', appears, 'til sanity once again prevails ?
Posted by o sung wu, Monday, 22 April 2013 3:30:03 PM
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I wonder if Australians could become decent drivers if they drove on the correct side of the road, i.e. the right ?
Posted by individual, Monday, 22 April 2013 6:08:51 PM
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