Is it just me, or is there a link to labor's, self induced 'smell' and what is obviously a lack of interest, and participation on OLO.

It just seems that when labor are at their lowest, a vast number of posters simply don't post.

I guess we can't blame them, as after all, most of them went along for the ride with the worlds smartest treasurer,only to be let down miserably by him and his team of incompetents.

No doubt they will come out and cast their vote in support of utter incompetence and miss-management, once again.

They say, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and expecting a deferent result.

rehctub,

If anything, it's probably got more to do with the quality of debate around here at times (most of the time)...etc...

We're all just waiting until September, why worry about Labor when we're in for another run of excruciating coalition governments?
The more important issue is that given Mr Abbot and Mr Turnbull are still relatively young men how long do we think the coming conservative domination will last? Will it break the record?

Dear Rehctub,

Jay has a point:

It's impolite to say bad things about the dead.
Let's just wait in silence for the official funeral.

Y....It's impolite to say bad things about the dead.
Let's just wait in silence for the official funeral.

Here here!

rehctub,

The say that love is blind. The ALP lovers are having a vey hard time coming to terms with the catastrophe about to befall them.

Their love has blinded them to reality and now it bursts into their lives like a bolt of lightening, shattering the illusion that all they once believed in and spruiked, as their reality lies in ruins on the floor. It is looking like there won’t even be enough of them left to sweep up what remains.

Only those who have not, and probably never will be able to reconcile what is about to happen, will have the ideology tanks full enough to comment.

Meanwhile those who do comment on this topic are left with the only mantra left which is straight from the Little Britain comedy show. “Yeh but, no but, Yeh but, well but, our side may be rubbish but the others will be much more worserer”

Yes, and just when they thought things couldn't get any worse, their life line, in the form of one Campbell Newman, is turning his fortunes around, as Queenslanders are starting to see the benefits of a real leader, one who's prepared to take on mammoth tasks, without being distracted by the likes of unions and the over weighted public service heavy weights, who's only aim is to save the gold plated jobs, regardless of the long term costs.

While their loyalists may suggest their beloved labor party havnt hit rock bottom yet, I recon they could see it from where they sit.

It's pretty easy to win an election, when all one really needs to do, IS NOTHING!

Thanks Julia for a tough, but somewhat rewarding three years of pain, as your ability to hold your stoogers together, while somehow retaining the support of those suposed independants, not to mention your upsetting of the greens, has been a shot in the arm for us, albeit, a very painful one.

Do the words 'enough rope' come to mind.

You're a darl!

Rehctub "It's pretty easy to win an election, when all one really needs to do, IS NOTHING!"

You are so right there rehctub.
With Labour self imploding, all Abbott has had to do is.....nothing.

I am sure his minders have implored him to keep his foolish mouth shut, just until they win the election.

God help us when he is PM, and he won't keep his mouth shut anymore.
I can't wait to see what happens then, and what you Lib-lovers will have to say about it!

Suze, let's be honest, take our respective hats and and say, do we honestly think he could be any worse.

Now if the answer is no, then seriously, what is the problem, as once rock bottom is reached, its more likely we will move forward, rather than backwards.

The other thing to remember is that this is not an unusual event for labor, as they had two goes in twenty odd years and failed on both occasions.

The same simp,y can't be said about the libs, no matter how biased you can be,

Dear rehctub,

Please don't list me amongst that bunch.

I'll critique anything and everything that stinks. Liberal or Labor!

I'm not a biased cheerful robot incapable of critical thought like most people. There are plenty of those on OLO and I don't have to name names for you to work out who they are.

<< It just seems that when labor are at their lowest, a vast number of posters simply don't post. >>

I hadn’t noticed that rehctub.

But what I have noticed is the appalling condemnation of Labor, with the only solution being to boot them out… without there being too much concern about how bad the other mob will be.

And most significantly, in amongst all this vehement criticism, there are precious few suggestions as to how Labor, or the Coalition for that matter, could pick up their acts and be good governors and reclaim a decent amount of respect from the ordinary people of this country.

What I find hardest of all to understand is the amazing lack of interest in my oft-repeated push for our government, of either persuasion, to embrace a sustainability paradigm, and of just what enormous importance this is.

<< They say, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and expecting a deferent result. >>

YES!!

So what do you think a Coalition government will do? What will essentially be different to what has gone before, under either Rudd/Gillard or Howard?

NOTHING!!

It’ll just be more of the same worshipping of continuous growth with faster growth being better, without there being any differentiation of what comprises good and bad growth. It’ll be more extremely high immigration and a consequent hopeless struggle to achieve ever-greater economic growth in order to struggle just stand still, without achieving any real gains for the existing population!

They'll be on the nose very quickly. Then they'll be booted out and the other mob of manic growth-worshipping antisustainabilityists will be back in power... for one or two terms!

Talk about insanity! Most people on OLO are MISSING THE POINT in their criticism of Labor and their desire for a change of government.

Have any studies been done as to what goes on in the mind of Labor supporters ?

Mr Opinion,

I have to take exception to your attack on Poirot, when you claim:

"I'm not a biased cheerful robot incapable of critical thought like most people."

Even people incapable of critical thought are entitled to express their opinions in a relatively free society, even if you or I might feel offended by the shallowness of those opinions.

Joe

There are plenty of those on OLO and I don't have to name names for you to work out who they are.
Mr Opinion,
Yes, you're one of their prime examples.

If Labor wants to pull a swifty on the conservatives all they have to do is change jockeys, take Gillard off the nag and leg Rudd up. Do it at the right time and the Rudd honeymoon will run, usually for 100 days, Abbott wouldn't know what to do. Presto Labors back in with an increased majority. Assuming Rudd wants to do his "mates" a favor.

Rudd has a messianic appeal that Julia Gillard lacks,he's eccentric enough to get people's attention and I reckon he could pull off another draw, if not a narrow win.
The Age were trying to spin the PM as "Churchillian" yesterday, which she's absolutely not, she's too safe and too political, she's Eisenhower, not Winnie.
It's just interesting to me that the leadership is now being discussed in heroic terms because I find it hard to believe that Australians genuinely desire political leadership.
Australia doesn't breed such people for a start and the population lack the imagination to sustain even a popular movement much less a cult of personality.
Bob Brown had the same messianic appeal but the cult was always a bit awkward and a bit embarassing as was the Kevin 07 crowd, the people imagine that they want a European style candidate but they really lack the self confidence to see the process through.