As unwelcome as you may find it thanks from me too csteele.
The poster visits here , not overly often but this is not the first.
And I can report was here on line at the time of my last post here this morning.
Unsure of the reason, but think we need to understand fishing , for comments that can then be put up on other sites, proving nothing but it looks good to some.

Dear Jayb,

To me a traitor is someone hell bent on eroding what we have built in this country; a markedly tolerant, inclusive, accepting nation.

A coward is someone who continually uses the anonymity of the web to do so.

Now that we have that out of the way why are you back to your old tricks? I spoke of ANZAC myths and you dishonestly and with malice declared I viewed ANZAC as a myth. I do not.

I was however brought up with stories of the heroics of a man called Simpson and his donkey. This was a very strong theme returned to each ANZAC day through my childhood. I was told of his outstanding bravery, of the hundreds of lives he saved, of him ignoring the bullets and going where others refused to venture, of him being recommended for the VC which was denied because he was 'just' a stretcher bearer. However it was almost entirely a myth.

“A federal government inquiry has found that the legendary heroism of Simpson and his donkey is more myth than reality.”
http://www.theage.com.au/national/taken-for-a-ride-20130306-2fli4.html#ixzz2OWWxzTCi

Now you may choose to continue to believe in this myth, I do not.

Wouldn't a coward be someone who feels the need, despite evidence to the contrary, to use myths to beef up the considerable deeds of our service men.

The real Simpson was obviously a larrikin but I feel sure he was not the type to have wanted to cloak himself in false glory. He likely would rightly regard this a traitorous to his fallen comrades.

I wonder what he would have thought of you?

See, if you want to come in here screaming about 'MADRASSES' then start slinging 'coward' and 'traitor' about I will bite back and we can do it all day long. It is not constructive and it is guaranteed to get stale pretty quickly.

How about parking the reactionary verbosity for a bit and engaging in a normal conversation.

Dear Belly,

Not unwelcome at all.

Dear csteele,

I agree with you. Funding for the arts and for sports is a questionable activity. Funding in the schools for art and sport informs children of choices that they make as an adult. I like Shakespeare and classical music, but I see absolutely no reason that the general taxpayer should fund my amusements. I wrote a piece of fiction. When it was published I saw in the book that it was funded by both the Australian Council for the Arts and the Victorian Council for the Arts. My fiction was an ego trip on my part, and most Australians who paid for it will not be reading it. They should not have paid for it.

Funding for health, police and other services used by the general public is legitimate. However, people should make their own choices in such activity as religion, the arts and sport without tax money.

csteel: I spoke of ANZAC myths and you dishonestly and with malice declared I viewed ANZAC as a myth. I do not.

What about some of the more secular indoctrinations such as history e.g. ANZAC myths,

Then in a further post:
This was a very strong theme returned to each ANZAC day through my childhood. I was told of his outstanding bravery, of the hundreds of lives he saved, of him ignoring the bullets and going where others refused to venture,
I have no doubt that this happened. Strangely, one does get rather blasé under fire. Having experiences the same.

This is one of the stories of Gallipoli. It is not the ANZAC myth. The ANZAC story encompasses all of the brave deeds of the soldiers of the ANZAC Corps during WW1, Covering Europe, Russia & the Middle East. A myth is something that, in part, is true, but has been embellished. What Simpson did, did happen. Beal, in his History, used Simpson as an example of the bravery of the Australian soldiers he was imbedded with at that time. Beal gave many examples & no doubt there many more he didn't write about. Stories told by the soldiers in their diaries that would go into the making of the ANZAC story. My Grandfather included. I have his diary. Whether you agree or not, these were brave men with little resources who made do with what they had on hand. They were all Hero’s who fought for the freedoms we enjoy today. They were not cowards. Thence the Legend.

Baker: He was a brave and tenacious soldier who gave his life doing his duty and supporting his mates - like thousands of others whose deeds were never acknowledged and are now long forgotten.

Now back to the subject, cont.

Cont.

Csteel: Wouldn't a coward be someone who feels the need, despite evidence to the contrary, to use myths to beef up the considerable deeds of our service men.

No. A coward is someone who would give up Australia’s freedoms to a pack of maniacal religious zealots because of some mistaken belief in their horrendous ideology.

Ifitkar: All Muslim children will learn and be well versed in Standard English and Quranic Arabic

In other words a MADRASS, csteel. Teaching Australian children to hate the infidel.

csteel: See, if you want to come in here screaming about 'MADRASSES' then start slinging 'coward' and 'traitor' about I will bite back and we can do it all day long.

It is you that is seemingly supporting the teaching of the barbaric Islamic Quoran in Australian schools. A subversive Book that promotes the take over of Australia & the Free World by violent means if they won't come easy. To me that is cowardly & traitorous.

A book that should be banned in Australia.

Jayb, Csteele,
The leadership of the country and the military during the WWI definitely were liberal and they did view their troops as good Christian soldiers, it's reasonable to state that "tolerance" and "inclusiveness" were widely held values at the time and therefore the true founding myths of that age.
People also can't seem to think this through and understand the nature of the regimes which the ANZACs stood against or realise that the soldiers themselves understood the distinction between Western Liberalism and the German, Austro Hungarian and Ottoman ways of governing. The tendency is to ascribe more or less the same value system to the both the Aussies and their enemies..which is bizarre to say the least but understandable given the amount of nonsense which the "Wrong side" put about.
Our great grandfathers were not "Horrible Racists", they didn't fight for "White Australia", they fought for classical Liberal values,for the British Empire model of society and against the Central European and Near Eastern model of society...heck a lot of them were even Socialists!