I never seriously considered Bob Carr, for various reasons:

1 He is a senator, which makes it difficult to lead the lower house.
2 While he is an experienced politician, he is federally a newbie.
3 His record in NSW is far from spotless, and his association with Obeid is a huge vulnerability.

Shadow Minister I know you can do better than that, we fight, and it will always be so. three above mine here, you matched individual in scrambled thoughts that are untrue, baseless and silly, you can do better indy can not.
Ludwig, mate, I respect and like you.
But bloke know you are mounted on your hobby horse the wrong way around.
Despite indys references to me not knowing the people or is it party, who truly cares.
I know this much Carr was once while Premier of NSW asked to go federal, at that time to be come Labor leader.
I wanted it, he did not and still does not, Carr, once held great power in the center unity group, he dos not now and never will, its a shame, but true.
You my friend dislike Rudd because as every leader of every party says, he wants the big Australia you and I see as a threat to our country.
Have read many links today, about Gillard, I think the challenge may come, if not this week May.
But know, the thing that haunts the ALP, factional power brokers, will continue to put their interests in front of the party.s.
Can any Labor supporter think we can win an election with this dead fish around our neck? read the polls.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/reforms-are-wounded-and-the-damage-is-selfinflicted-20130320-2gg0y.html
So we have stalled.
Not surprising.
Of late I have been even more than usually sharp in my comments.
But is it better not to speak as we see it?
Maybe pretending some thing very bad is good is the first step towards total agreement with all that is wrong, in Australian politics.
The link highlights the brash and rude Conroy, a power broker in harness with Shorten, and along with the Union out side Parliament, the current and recent past, owners of the ALP.
We if we look, will see true reason for concerns at recent events IN EVERY Liberal state government.
Much more is given to Labors ills, as it should be, the filthy fingers of Obead have gone to the funniest man.
A former National, remember that, then independent, who became the hope of Nationals, to beat Windsor, the Heroic ex National then National again, was bought and paid for by the biggest grub in this country Obead.
A truth, to Lexi, if I had never whispered a word about my party,s decline, had SM never refused to see any good us.
The truth would remain true.
While Labors policy,s, those not tainted by Gillards *tought lady without brains* hands, are great.
We are outstandingly better than our foes, foes they are including media.
But this woman, her power brokers, union mates, refuse to even consider the proud history of the ALP.
If today Gillards bus came along my party may survive.
IF we all take for the briefest time, our eyes from the side we hate, and demand better from our own, a third of both sides would be forced out of politics many on both sides in to prison.
We become more like America every day, every one is getting kick backs.

Dear Belly,

When all else fails you can always bash the United States.

In the United States the National School Chaplaincy Program and subsidy to private schools would be illegal. In the United States legislators are free to vote their conscience, the views of their constituents and the good of their country against the party room decision without being disendorsed or penalised. In the United States there is separation of powers as visualised by Montesquieu. The US has many flaws and is the dominant power in the world, but would you prefer a world dominated by Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan or Soviet Russia? That's what would be without the United States. Would that be better?

Well they are not!
Standing by Gillard.
The spill takes place at 4.30 today.
Tony Abbott asked a question, the two supplementary, then is still standing on his feet putting a very weak vote of no confidence in her, just hours before her party does the same.
Tony may feel the hairs on his neck standing up.
He is witnessing his fate.
He too, as a result of his carbon tax stance, and the loss, to him of his best asset Gillard, will stand in her shoes of this day soon, before the election.
I have seen today and in recent weeks a far better Fitzgibbon, and Crean, tomorrow I will see my party much better.
Every political party has its politicians, who are in fact the *Wise Rodents who live in that legendary out back Australian Dunny*
We all will see them emerge at 4.30 this afternoon, and in time not far away that brings the downfall of Abbott.
A better Australia the result.
But the question remains, on both sides WHY did we have to live with the wrong leaders for so long?

I see an election in 6 weeks, and with Rudd in charge, Labor will still lose. Everyone forgets scrapping the border protection, the collapse of the mining tax part 1, and the vicious criticism of Swan, Roxon etc that will come back to haunt Labor.