Well, as I’ve said before; the answer to Labor’s woes is obvious. Gillard needs to come out and enforce her statement of three years ago that she wishes to see a sustainable Australia, not a big Australia, which is something Bob Carr has been very strong on for decades.

She then needs to hand over the leadership to Carr!

He is the third most popular person for the job after Gillard and Rudd, although unfortunately he has said that he is not interested. If he was interested, he’d in like Flynn, I reckon!

I would say emphatically…

BOB, WE NEED YOU!! The country needs a sustainabilityist as its leader very badly indeed.

Labor is down and out. They’ve got nothing to lose by embracing a political paradigm of genuine sustainability, centred on a series of big annual reductions in immigration and the achievement of a stable population as soon as is reasonably practical.

CARR SHOULD BE LEADER. Gillard should be his deputy.

And Rudd should be nowhere to be seen!

"Gillard should be his deputy"

Not a way to reduce Carr accident stats.

well it seems Carr agrees with you Ludwig.

http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/ministers-desert-pm-20130318-2gbba.html

he helped stuff NSW with his corrupt mates.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/trouble-brewing-but-dont-blame-it-on-the-usual-bloke-20130318-2gb8m.html
I found every post interesting.
Mr opinion we did not hit it off from day one.
I am aware I took offense with you often.
But not those words in relation to Gillard knifing Rudd.
I have taken the boot to what I have loved all my life, and will continue to till death.
The ALP and my Union.
Because the knifing of Rudd was BETRAYAL of both and all who need both to be strong, for our country,s sake.
I watched heart broken, as my words, not just recent but from even my working days, that bought me as a union official in contact with McDonald,slime in the extreme, and many in NSW Labors right,who murdered my party here.
My head is in a spin, just how can my party have produced men , not the filth they are less than that, who did nothing while NSW under Labor was infested with robber barons?
And tell me, I need to know, how can the once driver of my party the right get it so wrong in putting Gillar don the throne.
Maybe she belongs on what county Aussies call the throne, onefar out back.
Reconsider how we fell out, Mr opinion your charge is untrue.

I must admit it, often tell others to read all contributions, then comment.
I took offense at Mr opinions and Rechtubs slash at me, not guilty never said it in that context.
But read the polls folks and review your memory's.
I a student of politics, not claiming I am always right, knew only this pre Rudd knifeing.
Saw reports of his bad temper and was uninformed and shocked at his dumping.
Most of you got the idea he could not be worked with after the dumping, released by Gillards supporters.
Now those polls, even Lexi must see, they show Gillard has zero chance of victory.
NOTHING CAN CHANGE THAT.
But those polls too show a Rudd leadership change turns the polls upside down,Abbott would have no chance, as the polls say of beating him.
Taking the bits of polls you like and ignoreing the rest? madness.

Dear Belly,

Retaining Gillard as far as I am concerned could show that the Labor Party has some principles. Although both are flawed Gillard seems to me much more competent as a leader.

A political Party can better its electoral chances by appointing a popular but incompetent leader or they can think it is more important to have a more competent leader even though that leader may be less popular.

although there is much to criticise in Labor I think they are making a principled choice. Keating was onto something when he said, "The souffle does not rise twice."