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Feminism - I have no problem with it, or for what it represents:
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Posted by o sung wu, Monday, 11 March 2013 9:13:22 PM
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O sung wu, I don't know any woman today who identifies with that sad 1970's bra-burner Greer.
She may well have been a trailblazer for women's rights way back then, but we have more wonderful women to look up to these days... Posted by Suseonline, Monday, 11 March 2013 10:03:04 PM
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According to some historians, feminism owes much to the work of Gloria Steinhem - who turned out to be a CIA "stooge". Her career and work was directly sponsored by them in conjunction with - and funded by - various business groups.
Why? At the time, the US workforce had been diluted by lower-paid Mexican immigrants and there was a rising feeling of social resentment. The solution for business was that there was a vast untapped local source of labor available - women! They were originally encouraged to take on many of the lower paid jobs but have been kept undercompensated ever since and their jobs have since become ones of economic necessity rather than choice. There are also some that believe that it was part of a deliberate strategy to get kids away from both their parents and break down the family unit but that's probably more an unforeseen consequence rather than a deliberate intention. Posted by rache, Monday, 11 March 2013 10:05:41 PM
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Professor Greer is typical of the over-educated middle class Chardonnay Marxists who make up a very large rump of the feminist commentariat.
She lives very well off the fat of the land, off the labour of common people no less, while looking down her nose at them. Life is good in her English country house. Must be good to be constantly waited upon. Never had to do any real work. Erin Pizzey on feminists, and she is right: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhliqceyoL8 Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 11 March 2013 10:07:25 PM
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I found two interesting quotes that took my fancy on this subject.
I felt the overwhelming need to share them. "Women who seek to be equal with men lack ambition." Timothy Leary "Feminism is the radical notion that women are people." Cheris Kramarae Posted by Suseonline, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 12:11:14 AM
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Every revolution has its consequences, its
benefits and its costs. The revolution of gender roles has helped to reshape the workplace, the family, and the relationship of the sexes - but the feminist ideals of the 1960s haven't always been fulfilled by the reality of the current century. A great deal has changed over the decades. New economic roles have brought women greater equality with men and also many fresh opportunities, particularly the chance to experience careers and achievements in the world beyond the home. But working women haven't simply traded their housework for a career, rather, many have taken on two jobs - one at home, one at work. Many women who enjoy the rigors of pursuing their careers, maintaining intimate relationships, and raising children are finding these things difficult to balance. Some, who put their careers before marriage find that they have hit the "invisible ceiling" and feel deeply betrayed. Now in their forties, they regard themselves as casualities of their own revolution - especially if they didn't marry and now face the prospect of never finding a husband or having children. Also, the post feminist generation of women today who take the benefits of women's liberation for granted, are dubious about the burdens of being the perfect wife, mother, and executive. For many women, for the time being at least, many feel themselves stuck midway in a revolution that has run out of steam. I won't go into details about the immense changes that women's roles have had on the family. Suffice to say that a generation of children are now being raised by working mothers who leave them in some form of day care from an early age - something unprecedented on this scale in the Australian experience. True liberation from the restrictions of gender would mean that all possible options would be open and equally acceptable for both sexes. Then a person's individual and human qualities, rather than his or her biological sex, would be the primary measure of that person's worth and achievement. Posted by Lexi, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 9:51:37 AM
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She seems now to be facing a real quandary, with identifing with most people, male or female. Many actively pillorying much of what she propounds. Strangly too, she persistently seeks out, or she creates controversy and dissension. However else can she guarantee her place in the spotlight. The more preposterous and ridiculous her claims, the better placed she is to retain her precious position within that all important media focus.
Her lifelong maxim, has always been 'all publicity is good publicity', remains indelibly imprinted in her psyche, and is permently entrenched within the Germaine Greer folklore.
I believe Ms. Greer is now a very isolated, lonely,and mordant old maid. Utterly denuded of any physical or emotional appeal. Spurned or ridiculed by all, but the most feral and overzealous of the female species, some of whom are themselves utterly confused as to what their own gender assignment actually is ? All very sad when one is forced to reflect upon the extraordinary intellect of this sad woman ?