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Alleged police brutality & the 2013 Sydney Mardi Gras:

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Having heard 2GB's Ben Fordam's, account of the brutality allegedly occasioned to an individual (by police) during the recent Sydney Mardi Gras, I thought I'd take a peek at the video.

I saw a ('yawn') spectre of large, colourful crowds enjoying themselves immensly, in all manner of attire, with some 'almost' attired, and several visions of some struggling young people. I also heard a lot of noise, and some shrill, intemperate language emanating from a female, shouted demands, and I saw the usual suspects who generally pervade these type of events.

I wonder who else managed to view one of these videos, and those who did to see it, what they thought of it ? And as you'd expect, the coppers are once more, receiving a fair caning over the entire affair. Therefore, I was wondering if any of you thought the complaints against police were deserved, at all ?

In my advancing dotage, I was musing away to myself... if, one day we might reach a 'tipping point' where police will've had enough - absolutely enough of it all ? Enough of the continued (and often unpunnished) violence against police, the abuse, the filthy insults, being spat upon, etc. etc. ? And landing up in an 'imaginary court', with the likes of Ms. Pat O'Shane presiding ? Where the finding AGAINST police is given, BEFORE the actual hearing ? Do I hear a mummer of chuckling ? You can believe it good people !

Successive governments are aware ? But pretend that day will NEVER come. But if it does, what will they do ? With my tired ol' ear to the ground, one does hear rumblings; more rumblings; and yet more rumblings...hopefully that's all they are, rumblings ?
Posted by o sung wu, Friday, 8 March 2013 4:18:36 PM
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O sung Wu,
Yeah I saw the clip and my view is that the fool deserved a bit of rough handling. I understand he was swearing and making obsene gestures at police beforehand. In other words a real prig.

I think generally the police are too soft at these events and violent protests. Treat them like they do in Russia, where they do not take any lip from idiots and protestors.

Like those fools stopping guests from attending a speech in Melbourne and I recall other socialist protests where the idiots were violent.

Spitting on police at such events should be tandamount of self destruction. Did anyone else get a gander at the sheila yelling, with the green hair, hatched from a parrots egg I'd say, with about as much brains as a galah.

Anyone going to watch that obsene parade should be locked up. Just a heap of exhibitionists who are best ignored.

Pity we cannot cull a few.
Posted by Banjo, Friday, 8 March 2013 8:10:00 PM
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o sung wu,
Do you recall the incident about 20 years ago,where a young aboriginal woman did not stop at a RBT near Sydney city somewhere.

Turns out she was the daughter of some government bureaurcrat who had taken his office car without permission. After a police chase she abandoned the car and reported it stolen.

Lucky girl, she was in the court next day before the only aboriginal magistrate in NSW and she was let off. Thats luck, but yeah she had a tough life and parents weree seperated!

I cannot recall her or the fathers name but the magistrate was pat OShane. seems like there are seperate rules for some.

The dropkick from the other evening will get a wrist slap, if that.

Just like the twits that were spitting on Pauline Hanson, the laws are a farce.
Posted by Banjo, Friday, 8 March 2013 8:41:13 PM
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Apparently the limp-wristed are planning a Police Brutality protest march.
I think we should support the Police in organising a protest march against stupidity in the community.
We just got to keep the coppers out of the picture.
Posted by individual, Friday, 8 March 2013 8:56:08 PM
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Good evening BANJO...

I thought there'd be connection with you, and that beautiful, evocative instrument somewhere ! 'Blue Grass' and all that fantastic 'finger pickin' they do, I love it but it must be such a hard, hard, instrument to master ? Without a banjo, no Dixieland Band would sound quite right eh ? That classic, 'Duelling Banjos' is a modern masterpiece of 'finger pickin'. From the movie 'Deliverance' I think ?

I cannot count how many 'disturbances' I've attended, and luckily I've escaped relatively unharmed. I've been reported, on many occasions, having my number (worn on your uniform) taken, and a week or two later, a 'Direction' to see 'Internal Affairs'. I must share with you a very funny intance. One day, I rostered on, and saw a 'direction' to attend an IAD, poking out of my 'pigeon hole', because a misconduct complaint had been levelled against me.

Anyway, after a ten minute chat with IAD, it was determined I wasn't even on duty, the day of my alleged misconduct !

To be honest BANJO, it's been awhile since I've attended any sort of disturbance in uniform. And I've found it's only a small, dedicated bunch (the usual suspacts) that bung it on. No matter what the issue, most people are pretty good. 'Loud' to be sure, 'violent' Only the usual bunch.

However, I'm not entirely sure how I'd manage to maintain my professionally composure, if I were ever again spat upon ? The toughest, thing for any copper to tolerate, is 'extreme verbal and physical provacation'. Usually offered by one of the same group of 'boofheads' you've arrested previously.

You'd recognise the type BANJO - Intention of remaining, longterm unemployed, part of 'rent a crowd', and will arrive for EVERY type of unlawful disturbance, 'stinks' of body odour, foul mouthed, and endeavours to provoke, provoke and provoke ! Moreover, they are often pathological liars ! And on a very personal level...After arresting any of them, I have this immediate 'need' to avail myself of a long hot shower, even before I consume a nice cup of coffee ?
Posted by o sung wu, Friday, 8 March 2013 9:55:11 PM
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'evening to you INDIVIDUAL & BANJO...

BANJO, you're really taxing my poor ol' brain, no I must admit I can't recall the matter, but dear Ms. Pat O'Shane, who could ever forget the dear lady, who I understand has reached the mandatory retirement age for Magistrates ? I think ?? She will no doubt, be recorded in the massive annals of NSW Jurisprudence, for evermore.

Interestingly, she's quite a nice person to speak with outside Court. Years ago I was in Wollies buying a sandwhich (on the corner of Pitt and Liverpool) near the Court, and so was she. While waiting to be served we chatted for a couple of minutes, as I was a detective by this stage, she still recognised me.

Yes INDIVIDUAL, until the Courts start dishing out the right sort of penalties, there's nothing much the coppers can do really.

One day fellas, just 'watch this space' ? One day, one of these insufferable, 'smelly' Boofheads are going to go a little too far ? And the whole weight of the Judiciary is going to come down right on top of their 'empty banal heads' ?

Listening to the Premier the other morning, by the sound of it he's getting fed up with the constant grief he's been getting from the voting public on issues of Law 'n Order, and Motor Cycle gangs et al ? So don't be surprised to see the re-emergence of the old Summary Offences Act, perhaps not in it's entirety, but nevertheless, part there of, at least.

Thank you both for your contributions, I do apprecaite it.
Posted by o sung wu, Friday, 8 March 2013 10:22:39 PM
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