Poirot>> Can't wait to see this mediocre pollie in action on the international stage<<

We don't know what sort of fool Abbott may be, but we know what sort of fool Swan is.

Swan never achieved a surplus.
Swan has presided over three extensions of the Commonwealths borrowing limit.
Swan has accumulated a record deficit for the Australian people.

On the back of that the imbecile went to Europe and told the worlds finance ministers where they were going wrong, he was a laughing stock. A mate in the UN told me what a pompous joke he was viewed as and that he received no informal invitations to speak, we purchased his time in front of the world and they just laughed.

No one can be that full of themselves that they could believe the world’s best treasurer bullsheiser with absolutely nothing but failures and negatives in their resume, excepting the self inflating cretin Swan.

P, I aint shooting Abbott until he falls down, but shoot I will.

warmair,

That data is for electricity only and excludes WA.

This shows emissions falling by .2% in the Sept 12 quarter...
http://www.climatechange.gov.au/~/media/climate-change/emissions/2012-09/QuarterlyUpdateofAustraliasNationalGreenhouseGasInventorySeptember2012.pdf

The climate change issue is losing traction from an electorate point of view. This will please the coalition. I'm sure there are some genuine skeptics amongst them but the majority are aware of the problem but prefer to comfort their cowardice and irresponsibility with the hope that someone someday will deal with it. Similar to other graphs that record statistics,weather records also have a 'staircase' appearance. The general trend over decades is upwards.Liberal voters,whether they be ignorant or understanding,delight in pointing out the fewer lower points on a graph,that scientist and researchers have recorded. Then ridicule the very same people for suggesting an overall upward trend. If you have difficulty understanding the data or the politicians,your left with a simple choice. (A) you can believe the research of over 95% of scientists,NASA and the CSIRO......or (B) you can believe Tony Abbott,a variety of right wing shock jocks and Angry Anderson.

Whatsit2yu>> ,your left with a simple choice. (A) you can believe the research of over 95% of scientists,NASA and the CSIRO......or (B) you can believe Tony Abbott,a variety of right wing shock jocks and Angry Anderson.<<

Watsit, if the IPCC are a credible organisation why did their two top scientific acolytes Dr. Michael Mann and Dr. Bradley generate the lie of the “hockey stick of horror.” These fee taking liars admitted….eventually ….that no matter what numbers were entered into the model you get an expediential warming of the earth in the end.

Real scientists, Professor Ross McKitrick and Professor of Applied Mathematics Christopher Essex tore the model apart. Mann and Bradley had to admit they lied, and they did.

So you believe what NASA and the CSIRO feed you. They feed you that opinion (and it is only opinion) because it attracts government funds.

Watsit, forget about global warming, we have an issue with the degradation of our soils, atmosphere and water table due to pollution from both industrial and domestic waste. While we fight each other over “climate change” the multinational polluters and the legislators who allow them to meet minimum “cost effect” capture and containment protocols make more money than ever before and have deftly shifted the guilt and the costs onto us.

Consider that “us” who are 90% of the globes population only own 15% of its resources, we are not prospering from pollution, we are just the cogs that make it work and the consumers of its product. We could have a immensely cleaner environment if some of the 85% of the money we 90% don’t own went to state of the art emission control and cleaner technology.

You gotta put the blame at the people that can change it but don’t, and if you haven’t recognized who they are then you are just playing environmentalist until something else comes along.

sonofgloin,

Could please provide a link to where Michael Mann has "admitted that he lied" about the hockey stick graph?

...because I don't believe you.

http://www.desmogblog.com/review-michael-manns-exoneration

And bollocks to your assertion that scientists from NASA and CSIRO offer only "opinion".

Would you same the same thing to a Professor of endocrinology giving you advice just after you'd been diagnosed with diabetes? Why is it that "skeptics" single out "climate" scientists for this treatment?

(Well actually I do know why. It's because they've bought the conspiracy spiel of big business, and now act as their humble acolytes in pervading ignorance)

"Opinion" indeed.....

Yes I am guilty, strongly so.
I blame only my self, I get too deep in to subjects, wish my few School days saw the same yearning to learn I now have.
My sin?
Based on the science I believe man plays the biggest roll in Global Warming.
Now some, fools on both sides manufacture evidence to prove their view is true.
Look at this mornings papers, say the SMH, its last blanket size before its Tabloid starts tommorow.
See the story about sharks never seen here before, being caught well south of their known habitat.
See the floods, remember the heat, of just two months ago, watch the reports of extreme weather from around the world.
Rusty may not be our last cyclone this year.
And yet another one, maybe two east coast low may swamp us yet again.
We are, in all probability, too late to change much.
Unless we can take the politics out of science.