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I like most people assume that the labour party will lose the next election. Personally I will not be voting for the Liberals, because of their failure to come to terms, with the single most important issue facing mankind, and that is climate change. I am disgusted at the Liberal's parties plan to remove the carbon tax. Here is a policy which actually works, and they want to scrap it, and replace it with something called "The direct action plan" which looks like it was designed to fail. It seems that the scheme was a product of the Clayton factory you know the climate plan you have when you don't have a plan. Good luck if you can find it on the net it seems to have disappeared.

If the Liberals do manage to remove the carbon tax it will go down in history as the biggest mistake ever made by an Australian government and taint the liberals as the party of fools in years to come.
Posted by warmair, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 11:10:54 AM
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Victory is the only thing Liberals can be relied on , to do.
They threaten the carbon tax/committed to turn to a free market price on emissions.
Tell us they intend to harm our relation ship with neighboring country's by sending the boats back.
Intention to dump the school kids bonus, to reduce pensions, and give high income workers more to have a child.
All these faults, and Tony Abbott, yet my ALP sits waiting to surrender power .
Rather than tell power brokers, power blocks, fools, to return Rudd what chance do we have?
A party committed to its own destruction rather than say we got it wrong!
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 4:40:33 PM
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Warmair>> the single most important issue facing mankind, and that is climate change<<

Warmair would you explain where the carbon tax goes to and what the tax does to aleviate global warming?
Posted by sonofgloin, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 5:20:10 PM
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warmair

Many people are under the delusion that the 'carbon tax' will mitigate global warming - you appear to be under this delusion as well.

The carbon tax was never intended to mitigate global warming - it can't.

It is silly to directly or indirectly link the two - you did it and so did SOG - it's a strawman.

Australia's carbon tax (then an ETS) was only ever meant to help transition Australia to a lower fossil fuel economy.

That is good - but it won't happen any time soon - under Labor, Conservative or Green.

It is not good to subsidise the fossil fuel industry just to get their support - no leader/party has got the proverbial balls
Posted by qanda, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 6:28:05 PM
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Qanda would you explain where the carbon tax goes to and what the tax does to alleviate global warming?

I was asking Warmair, but he hasn't replied yet. Given you know more than Warmair and I, tell me. After it leaves the Reserve where do our taxes go and what do they achieve.

Please be more specific than "helping the transition" to lower carbon emissions.
Posted by sonofgloin, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 6:41:16 PM
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Carbon tax will actually help in the effort to stop climate change.
It and the price on emissions has already focused us on the inevitable.
We if only for reasons of availability must change to cleaner available energy.
Much of the world, now including America is confronting that.
I ask those in my party, the ALP to consider this, a Liberal party government, is committed to destroy this and much of our efforts.
Yet Gillards chances of defeating them are nil.
So why do you sit and watch?
PS Abbott tells us,no evidence he believes it, his reduction target is the same.
IF he can work out how to grow trees on the sea and 4 deep on land it may help.
Yet this may yet lead to his fall, his intention is to put us in reverse, and let the world drive past us,that may be his end.
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 28 February 2013 7:08:01 AM
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