csteele, Oh, you mean THAT Phil Jones.

“BBC: Do you agree that from 1995 to the present there has been no statistically-significant global warming? Phil Jones: Yes, but only just”.

“Tim, Chris, I hope you’re not right about the lack of warming lasting till about 2020. Prof. Phil Jones CRU” Climategate email.

“Jones has admitted publicly that there has been no statistically significant “global warming” for 15 years”.

“Lorne Gunter, in today’s Canadian ‘National Post’ makes a shrewd assessment of where the world’s climate science community stands today in the wake of Professor Phil Jones’s recent revelations that there has been no ‘statistically significant’ global warming for over 15 years”.

“Four global warming blips discussed by Jones proves the historic temperature record fails to support the lie that the planet faces catastrophic climate change. Since these damaging admissions from such a key alarmist climate scientist, we are now witnessing the death throes of what has been the paradigm of post-modern science”.

“Phil Jones is liable as lead conspirator in the UK’s Climatic Research Unit (CRU) and may face prosecution under the United Kingdom Fraud Act (2006). If convicted of the offense of fraud by either false representation, failing to disclose information or fraud by abuse of his position, he stands liable to a maximum penalty of ten years imprisonment”.

“Disgraced Professor Phil Jones of Britain’s Climatic Research Unit (CRU) and his boss, Professor Edward Acton, head of the University of East Anglia appear to have been exposed in a blatant attempt to pervert justice. The Swedish Meteorological and Hydrological Institute (SMHI) has released evidence that proves Jones lied to Parliament during his testimony last week on the Climategate scandal”.

“Professor Phil Jones, disgraced British Climategate scientist has been caught out making contradictory and false statements to the UK’s Parliamentary Select Committee”.

“CRU’s Phil Jones will step down from his position as director of the unit that cooked climate change data to hide global cooling.

Britain’s East Anglia University says Jones will relinquish his position until the completion of an independent review”.

Reliable scientist? Not. Career finished? Yes.

Poirot wrote: "and nowhere does he claim to be a Nobel Laureate."

People who are awarded the Nobel prize are nobel laureates. Claiming to have been awarded the prize is the equivalent of claiming to be a nobel laureate.

Your case is so weak that you are reduced to playing childish semantic games.

I think we can summarise this thread (or at least the warmist side of it) as follows:

Even though we can no longer deny that there's been no warming for the better part of two decades since one of the priest-hood has owned up to it, it doesn't matter in the slightest because Monckton isn't really a Lord.

Very persuasive.

spindoc,

In keeping with your title, never allow the facts to get in the way of a good denialist rant : )

Here is the report of the International Panel set up by the University of East Anglia to examine the research of the Climatic Research Unit.

http://www.uea.ac.uk/mac/comm/media/press/CRUstatements/SAP

You may like to peruse it at your leisure.

Under the heading "Conclusion" you'll find this:

"We saw no evidence of any deliberate scientific malpractice in any of the work of the Climatic Research Unit..."

(Of course, "skeptics" aren't big on bothering about the actuality (or not) of "evidence" - and no doubt the International Panel are all part of the "conspiracy" anyway :)

mhaze,

Nothing has changed...you guys persist in your short-term cherry-pick as is your wont (and it's being extending by the day - Hoorah!).

And your pin-up boy Lord Monckton of Brenchley has trouble with actualities....not to mention a fairly slender grasp on climate science.

http://theconversation.edu.au/hear-ye-hear-ye-moncktons-medieval-warming-tale-is-climate-heresy-2326

(You're heading for the gold star on this thread. Barely a post goes by without you alluding to religious jargon...Good for you!)

csteele,

The issue of “where” Phil Jones recanted is settled and you are spot on. He recanted on the BBC and not as I stated “under oath during the UK’s parliamentary hearings” I apologize to you and to OLOers for this attribution error but his statement remains a matter of record.

To be fair he was never actually asked the question until he was interviewed by Roger Harrabin on the BBC. However, now that I have admitted my error can we get back to the original issue?

Professor Phil Jones has admitted that there has been no “statistically significant” global warming since 1995. He is supported in this assertion by a number of previously credible and significant “scientific” sources.

The “matter of fact” remains unchanged and we can now proceed to the deliberation of the statements of fact to reach our conclusions.

All those “experts’ that told us during the periods in question have now admitted they were wrong. They lied to the public and to our politicians.

This of course changes nothing in relation to the fraud perpetrated by these “experts”. I have admitted my error and apologized, are you man enough to accept my apology and to examine your own responses to the questions asked of you?

Poirot, your diversionary comments are noted, your scientific “champions vs the rest” is heading anywhere except to the questions asked.

The questions are about your scientific champions contradicting you. Can you now get down to answering the questions?

For each of the periods over the last 17, 18, 19, or 23 years (take your pick), all of these scientific establishments have now told us that “during these periods” there was no global warming. Yet there are thousands of warmertariat commentaries over these same periods telling us the world was still warming when clearly it was not.

Which is true, your experts now say there was no global warming during these periods. Is there global warming or is there no global warming during these periods?