Great, spindoc....it only took six posts on this thread for the religious jargon to appear. (you get the RJ prize for this page;)

Right on time (ding!)

Poirot,

If the IPCC, James Hansen, Phil Jones and the Met Office tell us there has been no warming since 1997, then who are we to contradict them?

The whole point is that during the last seventeen years we have been told that CAGW was causing climate change. This was not true because during that period there was no global warming, we now know we were conned.

It serves no intellectual purpose to justify the lie by suggesting Ah! But it will warm according to our failed models and there will still be Armageddon. It gets even worse if you suggest that taking blah blah into account, redistribute the averages, force the feedback blah blah and take into account our litany of failed predictions, we are still facing catastrophe.

It is a complete crock; a busted flush and an ex-parrot (pardon the pun).

If it isn’t a crock, would you care to advise us how, given this public announcement, you see your “science” possibly producing a Kyoto replacement, growth in renewables industry and restoration of the global emissions trading markets?

Surely you must have some ideas?

spindoc,

Global average temperatures have plateaued at "record" levels."

http://skepticalscience.com/going-down-the-up-escalator-part-1.html

"Right now we're in the midst of a period where most short-term effects are acting in the cooling direction, dampening global warming. Many climate "skeptics" are trying to capitalise on this dampening, trying to argue that "this time" global warming has stopped, even though [warming] didn't stop after the global warming pauses 1973-1980, 1980-1988, 1988-1995, 1995-2001 or 1998-2005."

"As Figure 1 shows, over the last 37 years one can identify overlapping short windows of time when climate :skeptics" could have argued that global warming had stopped. And yet over the entire period in question containing these six cooling trends, the underlying trend is one of rapid global warming (0.27C per decade)....And while the global warming trend spans many decades, the longest cooling trend over this period is 10 years, which proves that each was caused by short term noise dampening the long-term trend."

P.S. I know the term "long-term trend" means nothing to "skeptics" so I'm expecting the usual display of hairy-chested denial (not to mention spindoc's special brand of self-congratulatory sitcom banter:)

I can't see that humans have the foresight or the self-motivating impetus to deal with warming anyway...so it seems we'll just have to lump it like a bunch of dumb frogs in a pot.

"Homo sapiens" must be the most inaccurate title ever given to a species.

P, so the Australian is one eyed propaganda?
They reported the North Pole is decreasing.

>>"Arctic ice cap gone by end of decade," The Australian, September 2012.<<
This article included a comment from Chief Climate Commissioner Tim Flannery that the news was "a significant wake-up call", and a risk for coastal communities, infrastructure and ecosystems right around the world including in Australia.

Another member of the Climate Commission, Will Steffen described the Arctic melting as a "trigger" and suggested that the Arctic will be ice-free between 2016 and 2030. (The Sunday Age, article by Ben Cubby, September 23).

We have not yet read statements from Flannery or Steffen to the effect that the increase in Antarctic ice is a "go back to sleep" signal, or that increasing Antarctic ice presents a risk of falling sea levels on our coastlines.

One pole grows while the other diminishes, climate scientists do not have a clue about short term trends. Long term can be found in the fossil record, but anomalies of a few hundred years mean nothing let alone the ridiculous 40 year make or break scenario this gravy train clown Pachauri spouts…it’s the weather.

sonofgloin,

On Arctic ice loss:

http://tamino.wordpress.com/2013/02/20/cryosat-2-confirms-stunning-arctic-ice-loss/#more-6268

Poirot>>...so it seems we'll just have to lump it like a bunch of dumb frogs in a pot.<<

Just another “mythy” subject comes to mind in that statement P.

For twenty years the scientists have told us that amphibians (frogs in particular) are as good as gone. As I type away at my keyboard at night, the croak of calling frogs breaks the silence each and every time it rains. Further those bloody Cane Toads are expanding across our nation at speed.

Belly and yourself bagged me for accepting observation over scientific reporting. All I can say is that the frogs are putting up staunch resistance around my neck of the nape.