Poirot>> sonofgloin,

On Arctic ice loss:<<

No P, we know about Arctic ice loss, tell me about Antarctic ice gain occurring simultaneously. That was the point to my post.

sonofgloin,

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-24/antarctic-ice-sheet-warming-faster-than-thought-study/4442722

Poirot,

You are being played like a cat with a mouse. More alarmism, more links, more white knuckles as you desperately cling to the last remnants of the pseudo-science you so passionately embraced.

I marvel at your tenacity as the Hans Christian Andersen fable ends in “The King has no clothes”. Why on earth you think that linking to more of the failed alarmism, failed models and failed science that you swallowed is baffling, admirable but baffling.

Skeptics don’t care, nothing personal, we just feel vindicated. You are not going to convince us otherwise because it is your own sources that have walked away. If even they are not convinced, where does that leave you? Other than being in denial?

Get over it Poirot, find some other topic to obsess over, you are going to make yourself ill.

22/02/2013 [The Australian ] Rajendra Pashauri… acknowledges the “17 year pause in global temperature rises, confirmed by the British Met Office”. Also reported is the forecast of no further increases to 2017, a total pause of 21 years.

Yet, five minutes ago [ABC Radio Nation, The Science Show] Bill Press (President American Association for the Advancement of Science) was STILL talking about(spruiking) a world growing inexorable warmer!

It appears that some of our highly placed science spokespersons have not caught up with their readings.

Here's a scientist talking about global warming in relation to Lloyd's report.

http://theconversation.edu.au/time-to-stop-hiding-behind-warming-trends-12400

"....What we would like, though, is for science to be reported as science, and for opinion to be reported as opinion. And for all reporting to be accurate......The Met office predicts record global mean temperature over the next five years - now that's news."

Here's a "non-scientist" on Pachauri (one Monckton of Brenchley)

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/02/22/ipcc-railroad-engineer-pachauri-acknowledges-no-warming-for-17-years/#more-80326

It's charming to see the "skeptics" fizzing and popping like they're at a kiddies party..... but the reality is that they don't have a clue.

From your link P.

>>A re-analysis of temperature records from 1958 to 2010 revealed an increase of 2.4 degrees Celsius over the period, three times the average global rise.<<

A "RE ANALYSIS"?

What? They have now thrown out the window the 2009/08/07/06/05/04/03/02/01/00 analysis.

I think your throwing another "hockey stick" at us again. Why don't you alarmists quote the "hockey stick" of doom anymore P?

We found out it was a lie. That the perameters were moved...if sea rise is true, why did your lot lie about their research?